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    What source of weather data Windy use?

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    • idefix37I
      idefix37 Sailor Moderator @peteraschindler
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      @peteraschindler
      Find here additional information about the difference between NEMS and METEOBLUE. It is called Meteoblue AI by this forecast provider:
      https://community.windy.com/topic/10316/metoblue-wildly-inaccurate-in-the-sw-usa/4?_=1588859394205

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      • Yves70Y
        Yves70 Meteorologist | Premium
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        @peteraschindler
        Meteoblue is a Swiss company who developped a global model called NEMS. With this model, you can get weather forecast all over the world as this a global model, as GFS for instance.

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          jerryw @Zeeshi7897 | Premium
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          @Zeeshi7897

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            yqw
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            What is the data source for satellite? How does Windy get it from EUMETSAT?
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            If it is EUMETCast Satellite Europe - Ku-band than what do you get from it?
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            Does Windy pay EUMETSAT for it?
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            • KorinaK
              Korina @yqw
              last edited by

              @yqw Hello, the source is Eumetsat and data are displayed based on the contract.

              Korina

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                TTurbyfill8 @A Former User | Premium
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                @sv1aaw That would be great. WU was extremely accurate until Weather.com bought them and they dismantled the PWS network. I am in Central America and the WU 6 hour graphic forecasts could be relied upon. It was a game to see how accurate they were to the quarter hour.

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                • howardkuoH
                  howardkuo
                  last edited by

                  Is it possible to default to NAM instead ECMWF?

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                  • idefix37I
                    idefix37 Sailor Moderator @howardkuo
                    last edited by

                    @howardkuo
                    The default model of Windy is the model from ECMWF. It is not possible to set another model as default.

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                    • foobarjoF
                      foobarjo @dzuremar
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                      @dzuremar said in What source of weather data Windy use?:

                      @idefix37 Hello ! We use AROME with resolution 0.01° (1.3km). Both of the AROME resolutions have 00, 06, 12 and 18 ref time runs. There are also 03, 09, 15 and 21 ref time runs which we don't process. Advantage of AROME 0.025° (2.5km) is that it includes pressure-level layers. AROME 0.01° provides only surface-level layers, only wind and relative humidity are additionally in 20m, 50m and 100m altitude. However, AROME 0.025° also covers much smaller area - a square that covers whole France and a bit of surrounding area.

                      It seems that the AROME 0.025 now cover the same area as AROME 0.01. Is there any chance that Windy switch, or add AROME 0.025 to the supported models? The area of new icon D2 is quiet small either. The french paragliding community badly needs the pressure layers on the AROME model

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                      • Arda GulcilA
                        Arda Gulcil
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                        Hello, my first message/question in the community hope no problem to ask such question. Which model you suggest to use in sailing in Turkish Aegean and Mediterranean coasts ? Thanks
                        Arda

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                        • KorinaK
                          Korina @Arda Gulcil
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                          @arda-gulcil Hello, I recommend trying all the available models to find the best one for the location.

                          Korina

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                          • idefix37I
                            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Arda Gulcil
                            last edited by idefix37

                            @arda-gulcil
                            Hi,
                            I would not recommend only one model.
                            You know there are models providing long-range forecast (up to 10 days) and some short-range forecast (up to 2 days). The first ones have a lower resolution (about 10km or more), the second ones have a higher resolution (about 4km) in your area.
                            So the first ones are useful to know the weather in the next 5 or 7 days.
                            In this category I would recommend the ECMWF model, for instance to know if the Meltem wind is predicted to be strong next week.
                            For medium-range forecast try ICON EU
                            And for the shorter-range forecast it is better to use NEMS as this Mediterranean area shows a large quantity of mountainous coasts and islands. So you need a high resolution model to get more precision about wind force and direction. Local winds are highly influenced by mountains in the Aegean Sea.

                            Examples today at same hour
                            (shown with customized colours for wind):

                            ECMWF 9km resolution - 10-days range.
                            The Meltem strength is shown to be fairly even.

                            1BE425B3-B50E-4739-86C4-36AAB2513D23.jpeg

                            ICON 7km resolution - 5-days range
                            The wind is shown stronger between islands and weaker on leeward coasts.

                            716C9E89-D08F-42F7-B730-C95EFAFC2D81.jpeg

                            NEMS 4km resolution - 2.5-days range
                            The wind is shown even more accurately around islands and capes.

                            FDAE1F5B-6A50-4BFC-9BC6-6B4598F8D336.jpeg

                            My colour scale for wind is
                            Blueish green : 4 Beaufort
                            Bright green : 5 Beaufort
                            Orange : 6 Beaufort

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                            • Arda GulcilA
                              Arda Gulcil @idefix37
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                              @idefix37 thank you very much ,crystal clear.

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                              • rkeel61R
                                rkeel61 @TomSlavkovsky | Premium
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                                @TomSlavkovsky why don't you go through the help settings and figure it out.
                                Why do people say the dumbest thing.
                                They've got four models they use.
                                Mind boggles me what's wrong with people

                                rkeel

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                                • KorinaK
                                  Korina @rkeel61
                                  last edited by

                                  @rkeel61 What are you referring to please?

                                  Korina

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                                  • john marshalJ
                                    john marshal
                                    last edited by john marshal

                                    Hello, I was attempting to utilize your application here in Norway for snowkiting, and water currently in spring/summer. Anyway information utilized in Windyty is exceptionally erroneous for here, all accounts 90% exact.

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                                    • KorinaK
                                      Korina @john marshal
                                      last edited by

                                      @john-marshal Hello, what weather model and layer were you using, please?

                                      Korina

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                                        greyhappy @codeskipper
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                                        @codeskipper said in What source of weather data Windy use?:

                                        @ivo from what you can read at https://www.yr.no/artikkel/information-about-yr.no-1.2025949 the Norwegian national weather service use ECMWF data as just one of their sources for their own forecast model.

                                        From comparing their Grib data with ECMWF as used in Windy now, I find the yr.no significantly more accurate, at least for my area of SW Norway.

                                        Yr.no make their own data freely available, please see https://api.met.no.
                                        For my area, I just use this url manually: https://api.met.no/weatherapi/gribfiles/1.1/?area=west_norway&content=weather

                                        I would greatly appreciate for you to consider adding this data source to Windy as well, so the best interface could be used with the most accurate weather model. For starters, how about adding a feature to copy a grib file into Windy from another app?

                                        Cheers,
                                        Martinus

                                        Thank you!

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                                          Plux
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                                          How can i save the preferable fcst model? When i open my app, it always shows ECMWF and i need to switch to ICON-EU.
                                          Thanks

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                                          • idefix37I
                                            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Plux
                                            last edited by idefix37

                                            @Plux
                                            In Settings -> Start-up location and layer -> Start-up layer -> Use last overlay. Then you need to leave the app using your preferred model.

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