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    • foobarjoF
      foobarjo @dzuremar
      last edited by

      @dzuremar said in What source of weather data Windy use?:

      @idefix37 Hello ! We use AROME with resolution 0.01° (1.3km). Both of the AROME resolutions have 00, 06, 12 and 18 ref time runs. There are also 03, 09, 15 and 21 ref time runs which we don't process. Advantage of AROME 0.025° (2.5km) is that it includes pressure-level layers. AROME 0.01° provides only surface-level layers, only wind and relative humidity are additionally in 20m, 50m and 100m altitude. However, AROME 0.025° also covers much smaller area - a square that covers whole France and a bit of surrounding area.

      It seems that the AROME 0.025 now cover the same area as AROME 0.01. Is there any chance that Windy switch, or add AROME 0.025 to the supported models? The area of new icon D2 is quiet small either. The french paragliding community badly needs the pressure layers on the AROME model

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      • Arda GulcilA
        Arda Gulcil
        last edited by

        Hello, my first message/question in the community hope no problem to ask such question. Which model you suggest to use in sailing in Turkish Aegean and Mediterranean coasts ? Thanks
        Arda

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        • KorinaK
          Korina @Arda Gulcil
          last edited by

          @arda-gulcil Hello, I recommend trying all the available models to find the best one for the location.

          Korina

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          • idefix37I
            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Arda Gulcil
            last edited by idefix37

            @arda-gulcil
            Hi,
            I would not recommend only one model.
            You know there are models providing long-range forecast (up to 10 days) and some short-range forecast (up to 2 days). The first ones have a lower resolution (about 10km or more), the second ones have a higher resolution (about 4km) in your area.
            So the first ones are useful to know the weather in the next 5 or 7 days.
            In this category I would recommend the ECMWF model, for instance to know if the Meltem wind is predicted to be strong next week.
            For medium-range forecast try ICON EU
            And for the shorter-range forecast it is better to use NEMS as this Mediterranean area shows a large quantity of mountainous coasts and islands. So you need a high resolution model to get more precision about wind force and direction. Local winds are highly influenced by mountains in the Aegean Sea.

            Examples today at same hour
            (shown with customized colours for wind):

            ECMWF 9km resolution - 10-days range.
            The Meltem strength is shown to be fairly even.

            1BE425B3-B50E-4739-86C4-36AAB2513D23.jpeg

            ICON 7km resolution - 5-days range
            The wind is shown stronger between islands and weaker on leeward coasts.

            716C9E89-D08F-42F7-B730-C95EFAFC2D81.jpeg

            NEMS 4km resolution - 2.5-days range
            The wind is shown even more accurately around islands and capes.

            FDAE1F5B-6A50-4BFC-9BC6-6B4598F8D336.jpeg

            My colour scale for wind is
            Blueish green : 4 Beaufort
            Bright green : 5 Beaufort
            Orange : 6 Beaufort

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            • Arda GulcilA
              Arda Gulcil @idefix37
              last edited by

              @idefix37 thank you very much ,crystal clear.

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              • rkeel61R
                rkeel61 @TomSlavkovsky | Premium
                last edited by

                @TomSlavkovsky why don't you go through the help settings and figure it out.
                Why do people say the dumbest thing.
                They've got four models they use.
                Mind boggles me what's wrong with people

                rkeel

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                • KorinaK
                  Korina @rkeel61
                  last edited by

                  @rkeel61 What are you referring to please?

                  Korina

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                  • john marshalJ
                    john marshal
                    last edited by john marshal

                    Hello, I was attempting to utilize your application here in Norway for snowkiting, and water currently in spring/summer. Anyway information utilized in Windyty is exceptionally erroneous for here, all accounts 90% exact.

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                    • KorinaK
                      Korina @john marshal
                      last edited by

                      @john-marshal Hello, what weather model and layer were you using, please?

                      Korina

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                        greyhappy @codeskipper
                        last edited by

                        @codeskipper said in What source of weather data Windy use?:

                        @ivo from what you can read at https://www.yr.no/artikkel/information-about-yr.no-1.2025949 the Norwegian national weather service use ECMWF data as just one of their sources for their own forecast model.

                        From comparing their Grib data with ECMWF as used in Windy now, I find the yr.no significantly more accurate, at least for my area of SW Norway.

                        Yr.no make their own data freely available, please see https://api.met.no.
                        For my area, I just use this url manually: https://api.met.no/weatherapi/gribfiles/1.1/?area=west_norway&content=weather

                        I would greatly appreciate for you to consider adding this data source to Windy as well, so the best interface could be used with the most accurate weather model. For starters, how about adding a feature to copy a grib file into Windy from another app?

                        Cheers,
                        Martinus

                        Thank you!

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                          Plux
                          last edited by

                          How can i save the preferable fcst model? When i open my app, it always shows ECMWF and i need to switch to ICON-EU.
                          Thanks

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                          • idefix37I
                            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Plux
                            last edited by idefix37

                            @Plux
                            In Settings -> Start-up location and layer -> Start-up layer -> Use last overlay. Then you need to leave the app using your preferred model.

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                            • Catalin-Adrian PisoiuC
                              Catalin-Adrian Pisoiu | Premium
                              last edited by

                              Lately seems that weather company data become so reliable for eastern Europe but Weather Channel is a shitty app. Are there any plans to include that data as a new model in Windy Premium? I know that the API is paid to access but maybe a new plan can be introduced to offer it. As Premium user I am willing to pay extra for that 😁

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                              • Steve DiazS
                                Steve Diaz
                                last edited by

                                Great work ! Thanks for sharing .

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                                • manzoorraypurM
                                  manzoorraypur
                                  last edited by

                                  Windy utilizes a combination of weather data sources to provide comprehensive forecasts. These include data from global weather models, satellite imagery, weather radar, and ground-based weather stations.

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                                    MihneaAM
                                    last edited by

                                    Hello. You should update the map/list with the ALADIN model from CHMI.

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                                    • idefix37I
                                      idefix37 Sailor Moderator @MihneaAM
                                      last edited by

                                      @MihneaAM
                                      It is already there
                                      AB6F79A0-262C-466C-9689-8892C0EC3FC8.jpeg

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                                        MihneaAM @idefix37
                                        last edited by

                                        @idefix37 I'm referring to the first post of this topic, not to the application itself.

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                                        • idefix37I
                                          idefix37 Sailor Moderator @MihneaAM
                                          last edited by idefix37

                                          @MihneaAM
                                          This post is very old (2015) but several models have been updated in the list.
                                          However ALADIN now is missing and MSM too.
                                          https://community.windy.com/topic/12/what-source-of-weather-data-windy-use?sort=oldest_to_newest
                                          Then there is a mistake when it is said that “ICON Global - the model is operated by the United States National Weather Service (NWS)” !
                                          And the pictures showing the model resolutions are showing in fact the domain of the models.

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                                          • ascutzaA
                                            ascutza | Premium
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi guys! I totally appreciate all your work here!
                                            I have a question and can't seem to find the resolution.
                                            Can I change the default model on my windy app startup? I am a premium member as well but cannot find the option (not the layer but the forecast model).
                                            I am currently in Eastern Europe and don't really like the ECMWF outputs and I want the Meteoblue or ICONEU to show my forecasts as default, but cannot seem to find where to make the switch and don't really feel like having to change models all the time.
                                            Also, thanks a lot for the Compare forecasts option!!
                                            Thanks in advance!

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