HARMONIE for superior short-range forecasts in the Netherlands
BastiaanvonM last edited by
This has been mentioned in other posts (e.g. here), but for the Netherlands HARMONIE 2.5km is the best short-range prediction model by a long shot. It is for example the only model that accurately predicts sea breeze, which is very relevant in this coastal country. HARMONIE-40 is the operational short-range model for the Dutch Meteorological Institute (KNMI). Note that ECMWF is decent and also used by the KNMI but only for medium-range forecasts.
I read somewhere else on this forum that 'more models will only confuse', but for the Netherlands HARMONIE 2.5km and ECMWF are really the only models you'll need.
HARMONIE can be downloaded for free from the KNMI datashare, you'll find more information here.
I can’t say how HARMONIE is good, but for sea breeze you can use ICON 7km and AROME 2km (in fact 1.3km exactly). They are good too. Here a day of sea breeze last year with AROME.
BastiaanvonM last edited by BastiaanvonM
Thanks @idefix37. I am aware that other models predict sea breeze, but for the Dutch coast they are not accurate enough. Apart from accurately predicting sea breeze HARMONIE in general is really the go-to short-range model for the Netherlands.
EDIT: to elaborate a bit, HARMONIE is specifically tailored to the Netherlands by the (only) meteorological institute and it really shows. As said it is the official operational short-range model and there's no discussion here that other models are in a different ballpark, especially for wind predictions.
EDIT2: just historically it's nice to know that HARMONIE is based on AROME... :)
BastiaanvonM last edited by
And one other addition: there are quite a lot of countries whose short-range forecasts are based on HARMONIE: "... Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, and Sweden." (Bengtsson et al., 2017).
The challenge will be to get those predictions from their respective national institutes. At least for the Netherlands they are freely available (see link in my first post).
I think it would be worth the effort to include HARMONIE-40 2.5km in Windy, if it works out for the Netherlands maybe those other countries might follow relatively easily.
While looking at the forecast for tomorrow there's a big difference in prediction.
Ardome vs Harmonie Jun 12 at 12h00 around Markermeer.
mennoberens | Premium last edited by
@idefix37 I agree that Harmonie would be a very nice addition. Two years ago windguru added the Harmonie model when I requested them. I prefer Windy's interface, but for short term precision I still switch to windguru... I'm a paying user for both.
To make things easier for you: a Dutch guy already translates the 6-hourly updates to grib(1?)-files.
Here is the explanation in dutch, with subsets and the update times:
Here are the links to the grib files (first one is all data, second is only wind)
If the links don't bring you to a download but a website instead, the bottom right links are for the full model area.
Model run Beschikbaar
00:00 UTC ± 04:00 CET
06:00 UTC ± 10:00 CET
12:00 UTC ± 16:00 CET
18:00 UTC ± 22:00 CET
For more (technical) info you can contact firstname.lastname@example.org (same first name, different guy)
I hope you give it a go.