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    • Gkikas LGPZG
      Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist
      last edited by

      ... may form over Ionian Sea on Fri. 18 Sep.
      according to ICON.

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      For Medicanes see
      https://community.windy.com/topic/6788/a-medicane-expected?=1600197577410
      and
      https://community.windy.com/topic/4935/medicane?
      =1600197501029

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      • Gkikas LGPZG
        Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @Gkikas LGPZ
        last edited by

        Model's uncertainties ...

        Different tracks for ECMWF and ICON
        may result different rain accumulations.
        e.g. for Athens, Greece
        ECMWF forecasts 214 mm for the next 5 days
        while ICON expects only 2 mm !!!

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        We will keep on watching and after 5 days we'll know which model forecasted better that situation!

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        • Yves70Y
          Yves70 Meteorologist @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
          last edited by

          @Gkikas-LGPZ
          Very interesting situation that I follow carefully as well. Indeed, models don’t give yet the same scenario. A lot of things can also happen in the meantime. For instance, if there is cold air coming in the upper altitude, that will cut the development of the medicane and it could strongly be reduced in intensity.
          It seems also that Crete will not be really affected, if direction stays as it is.

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          • Gkikas LGPZG
            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @Yves70
            last edited by

            Extreme forecasts

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            • Gkikas LGPZG
              Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @Gkikas LGPZ
              last edited by

              Today (17 Sep) forecast tracks (based on ECMWF and ICON)
              are in good agreement.

              It seems that the cyclone will affect the western coast of Greece
              (south from Preveza/Lefkas island).

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              • Gkikas LGPZG
                Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @Gkikas LGPZ
                last edited by

                Rain accumulation (3 days)
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                • Yves70Y
                  Yves70 Meteorologist | Premium
                  last edited by Yves70

                  @Gkikas-LGPZ
                  Finally, all models, including ICON, are in agreement for the trajectory.
                  Unless something happens which could lead to a destructuration of this medicane, it will hit Greece tomorrow and later North of Crete followed by Turkey.
                  I am a bit surprised that they don’t talk that much in the news abouth this medicane although this is a very severe event,...

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                  • Yves70Y
                    Yves70 Meteorologist | Premium
                    last edited by Yves70

                    One of the typical feature of a medicane is the hot core which is much warmer than outside. It is very interesting and instructive to follow it at different levels. At the beginning, you could notice the difference at low levels, 850 hPa for instance but day after day, you can see the differences, in the core and outside, also at much higher levels. This is because in the development process of an hurricane, the system releases latent heat, among others because of the condensation of warm and humid air at higher and higher level. Here you can see it clearly on the follwing map at 600hPa : +2°C in the core, -2 or -3°C outside. Huge difference !

                    Very instructive to follow the development of this medicane

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