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    • sandon_sS Offline
      sandon_s | Premium
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      hello, here is a screen shot from windy showing the phantom west swell....

      untitled (1 of 1)-21.jpg

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        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @sandon_s
        last edited by idefix37

        @waatchy_wheedle
        And where is the problem??
        You get 8ft 15s both on the arrow and in the Meteogram.
        If you don’t show another source of WW3 model for same area, same hour, what can we conclude?

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        • sandon_sS Offline
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          seems like it differs significantly from your screen shot. Which wave model was that from?

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            @idefix37 also that 8'@15sec never showed up.

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              idefix37 Sailor Moderator @sandon_s
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              @waatchy_wheedle said in wavewatch swell discrepancy:

              seems like it differs significantly from your screen shot. Which wave model was that from?

              It was WW3

              @waatchy_wheedle said in wavewatch swell discrepancy:

              also that 8'@15sec never showed up.

              You mean that you have not observed the 8’ ? Or not shown by other WW3 source?

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                @idefix37 Here is a screenshot from the buoy last Wed, also using ww3 data. Shows what was forecastedcdip wed.jpg as well as observations.

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                  idefix37 Sailor Moderator @sandon_s
                  last edited by idefix37

                  @sandon_s
                  OK, I have looked at this site on Oct 03 15Z (UTC) at buoy position. The wave significant height is said to be 4ft:

                  8D740C98-F028-48B8-B706-3ABA621A50D5.jpeg

                  At same time with 3h forecast step and same location Windy shows 4ft with WW3 model:

                  93DC7B6F-6718-4AD9-811E-3646B9AF2400.jpeg

                  With 1h forecast step, the swell height is quite different and should be 7ft:

                  F3C300E5-B45A-4882-8DDD-FCE8B1064E0F.jpeg

                  btw your first screenshot was using 1h step.

                  So apparently this is where there is something WRONG with the 1h step wave and swell height
                  With 3h forecast step, between 15Z and 18Z the height varies from 4ft to 6 ft.
                  With 1h forecast step, between 15Z and 18Z the height varies from 7ft to 6ft.

                  @Korina Pls could you review this issue with developers. I have used the app on iPad. This issue is also observed on website but only with WW3, not with WAM. It probably needs further investigation.

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                    idefix37 Sailor Moderator
                    last edited by idefix37

                    Here is another example even more obvious, at same location and same time. Settings are only wave models and 3h/1h forecast.

                    With WAM there is no change with 3h or 1h.

                    A405581F-7149-4206-B4E1-7826DEEBD5DA.jpeg

                    With WW3 the wave/ swell height is different with 3h or 1h.

                    914CC35B-92FF-4E62-834E-646805BE4FAB.jpeg

                    So it seems there is a bug with WW3 (Wavewatch3) when shown with 1h forecast step. Easy to check it by just toggling from 3h to 1h and back.

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                    • sandon_sS Offline
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                      last edited by

                      Excellent, thank you for looking into this. Appreciate very much.

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                        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @sandon_s
                        last edited by idefix37

                        @sandon_s
                        Thank you for pointing out this issue AND for providing full details. A lot of user here, when they report an issue, they don’t say where, when, compared with what...
                        Until dev team look into this, you better use WW3 with 3h forecast step.

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                        • KorinaK Offline
                          Korina @idefix37
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                          @idefix37 @sandon_s Hello, thank you for your investigation, we will look into this.

                          Korina

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