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    • Gkikas LGPZ
      Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ last edited by

      ....
      hmmm
      what's the temperature at 250 hPa ?
      -42 or -44 C ?
      250 hPa.jpg

      Maybe the problem starts from this
      https://community.windy.com/topic/7963/upper-air-temperatures

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      • Yves70
        Yves70 Meteorologist | Premium last edited by

        @Gkikas-LGPZ
        Did you see other discrepancies at other levels between temperatures of the sounding and the map ?

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        • Gkikas LGPZ
          Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @Yves70 last edited by

          @Yves70
          No.
          Please read the following post to the end.
          https://community.windy.com/topic/7963/upper-air-temperatures

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          • Yves70
            Yves70 Meteorologist | Premium last edited by

            Correlation seems to be good at other levels :

            Capture d’écran 2020-10-08 à 11.58.42.png
            Capture d’écran 2020-10-08 à 11.58.11.png
            Capture d’écran 2020-10-08 à 11.56.57.png

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            • rittels
              rittels Code contributor @johnckealy | Premium last edited by

              @johnckealy

              Well done. Very cool.

              The skewT overlaps the detail a bit, at least on my screen.

              There is an error in the console:

              Error: attribute d: Expected number, "MNaN,NaNLNaN,NaNL…".

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              • johnckealy
                johnckealy last edited by

                Amazing feedback, thanks everyone!

                @rittels, the skewT is overlapping the spot forecast? I'll look into that. Man I hate cross-browser incompatibility! The error you see isn't anything to worry about, been meaning to find a way to suppress it. It's just the data points in the ascent that I didn't want shown.

                Thanks for the info on the temperature discrepancy too @Gkikas-LGPZ and @Yves70, I'll have a look into that for the next version.

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                • johnckealy
                  johnckealy last edited by

                  Hi All,

                  windy-plugin-skewt now has a radiosonde feature. I'm still testing it, but please let me know any feedback :)

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                  • Gkikas LGPZ
                    Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @johnckealy last edited by

                    @johnckealy
                    Wrong data for 250hPa (FL340).
                    5ac72c37-7203-4718-ab9a-d5c70244befd-εικόνα.png

                    It seems your plugin doesnt take into account data for 250 hPa (nor interpolate 300~200 hPa data).

                    Same problem found here https://community.windy.com/topic/7963/upper-air-temperatures
                    Also read https://community.windy.com/topic/13921/windy-plugin-skewt-new-features/5?_=1615067856664

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                    • johnckealy
                      johnckealy last edited by

                      Thanks for the feeback @Gkikas-LGPZ. Easy fix. Either I had originally missed it, or it was added by Windy later, but there is indeed a 250mb datapoint. All I had to do was add it in. You may need to give it a few hours to update, but I've published the change.

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                      • EduardoSG
                        EduardoSG | Premium last edited by

                        Nice plugin !

                        It seems you have something wrong when calculating altitude related to pressure
                        wind.png

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                        • johnckealy
                          johnckealy last edited by

                          Hey @EduardoSG

                          sorry if I'm being slow, but what's the issue?

                          z = -H * log(P/Po)

                          so 500 hPa should be around 7000 m, no?

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                          • Gkikas LGPZ
                            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @johnckealy last edited by

                            @johnckealy
                            500 hPa gph rarely observed higher than 6000m

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                            • Yves70
                              Yves70 Meteorologist @johnckealy | Premium last edited by

                              @johnckealy
                              John, 500hPa is about 5500m

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                              • johnckealy
                                johnckealy last edited by

                                @Yves70 @Gkikas-LGPZ

                                I just use the above equation in that calculation, it's just an estimate. Is there a better equation I can use? If not, suggestions on how to approach it? It's been a while since I did this stuff.

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                                • Gkikas LGPZ
                                  Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @johnckealy last edited by Gkikas LGPZ

                                  @johnckealy
                                  https://www.math24.net/barometric-formula
                                  Also see "example1"

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                                  • vsinceac
                                    vsinceac last edited by vsinceac

                                    There is also this NOAA online calculator with corresponding formula.

                                    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                                    • johnckealy
                                      johnckealy last edited by

                                      Okay, added a fix for that in v0.9.2 🌨️🌞

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                                      • EduardoSG
                                        EduardoSG | Premium last edited by

                                        Hi @johnckealy

                                        I found what I think can be a bug.
                                        When I change models, the sounding displayed changes differently depending from which previous model I am changing to.

                                        In my region I have ECMWF - GFS and ICON, in that order from left to right
                                        When I go from any of the first two to ICON, it seems to repeat on of the previous two soundings
                                        When I go from ICON to any of the previous two, it shows a different sounding (the same if I go from ICON to GFS or from ICON to ECMWF)

                                        In total there are three soundings, but it is not clear which one corresponds to which model because of this glitches

                                        I atach two screenshots
                                        GFS2.jpg GFS1.jpg

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                                        • johnckealy
                                          johnckealy last edited by

                                          @EduardoSG

                                          Sorry about that, I thought I'd fixed this already. Thanks for reporting the bug. I've just written a fix (v0.9.3).

                                          Let me know if you still see problems.

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