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    • KorinaK Offline
      Korina @Damir120505
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      @damir120505 Hello, in free version of Windy, forecast is displayed in 3hour steps. With Windy Premium you can also view data for 00:00, in case you're referring to this.

      Korina

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        Damir120505 @Korina
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        @korina, with premium I can see +001, +002, +003, +004... and +000 hours forecasts?

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        • KorinaK Offline
          Korina @Damir120505
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          @damir120505 Forecast is also available for 0 am -
          Screenshot 2021-01-28 at 13.49.00.png

          Korina

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            Damir120505 @Korina
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            @korina, no. I didn't mean 00 am. The model is updated every 3 or 6 hours. After the update, the first available forecast is +003 hours (+001), but Windy does not have a +000 forecast (analysis).

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            • KorinaK Offline
              Korina @Damir120505
              last edited by

              @damir120505 The ECMWF model is updated every 12 hours (every 6 hours with Windy Premium). Each model has a different update times.

              Korina

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              • idefix37I Offline
                idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Damir120505
                last edited by idefix37

                @damir120505
                Please show a screenshot ! You are not clear.
                Are you talking about time shown in the time line or in Meteogram?

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                  Damir120505
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                  @idefix37, I'll show example on GFS. Last update - 00 UTC. First available forecast is for 01 UTC (+001). But I need chart for 00 UTC hour (+000 or Analysis).
                  c1c3b2ba-21e8-4ab5-8138-9a45f7ef2790-image.png

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                    Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @idefix37
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                    @idefix37
                    I think damir talks about initial data for every run of the model.

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                    • KorinaK Offline
                      Korina @Damir120505
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                      @damir120505 The forecast data are valid until the next update time (or ref time). This is just how the GFS or other models work.

                      Korina

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                        Damir120505 @Korina
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                        @korina, any model have analysis map. If model updated in 00 UTC it has forecast for +001 and analysis. But analysis ISN'T forecast of previous model run. For example, init time and valid time are same on this picture. Unfortunately, Windy has no analysis map.
                        a0d1d58a-017b-4383-8062-8ab5c3d0097b-image.png

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                        • KorinaK Offline
                          Korina @Damir120505
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                          @damir120505 You can learn more about reference and update time here -

                          https://community.windy.com/topic/11361/a-difference-between-reference-time-and-update-time

                          Korina

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                            Damir120505 @Korina
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                            @korina, I knew the information from the topic before.
                            Indeed, before starting to calculate weather forecasts for the future, the model analyzes the weather at 00 and 12 UTC and receives a "map" for this time. This time is called analysis or +000 hours. But the first available term in Windy is an hour or 3 after the analysis (+001 or +003 hour).

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                              idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Damir120505
                              last edited by idefix37

                              @damir120505
                              For ECMWF Analysis is not disseminated together with Forecasts.
                              https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/documentation-and-support/data-delivery/dissemination-schedule

                              May be Windy chose not to acquire the Analysis but only the Forecasts.

                              Same for GFS
                              https://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/prodstat/

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                              • Yves70Y Offline
                                Yves70 Meteorologist @idefix37 | Premium
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                                Yes, @idefix37 is right, there is a delay between analysis and forecast, as described in the link proposed by @idefix37. This should be the case for other models.
                                Price to acquire data and analysis can explain that people go for the forecast

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