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      Damir120505 @Korina
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      @korina, no. I didn't mean 00 am. The model is updated every 3 or 6 hours. After the update, the first available forecast is +003 hours (+001), but Windy does not have a +000 forecast (analysis).

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        Korina @Damir120505
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        @damir120505 The ECMWF model is updated every 12 hours (every 6 hours with Windy Premium). Each model has a different update times.

        Korina

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          idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Damir120505
          last edited by idefix37

          @damir120505
          Please show a screenshot ! You are not clear.
          Are you talking about time shown in the time line or in Meteogram?

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            Damir120505
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            @idefix37, I'll show example on GFS. Last update - 00 UTC. First available forecast is for 01 UTC (+001). But I need chart for 00 UTC hour (+000 or Analysis).
            c1c3b2ba-21e8-4ab5-8138-9a45f7ef2790-image.png

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              Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @idefix37
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              @idefix37
              I think damir talks about initial data for every run of the model.

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                Korina @Damir120505
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                @damir120505 The forecast data are valid until the next update time (or ref time). This is just how the GFS or other models work.

                Korina

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                  Damir120505 @Korina
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                  @korina, any model have analysis map. If model updated in 00 UTC it has forecast for +001 and analysis. But analysis ISN'T forecast of previous model run. For example, init time and valid time are same on this picture. Unfortunately, Windy has no analysis map.
                  a0d1d58a-017b-4383-8062-8ab5c3d0097b-image.png

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                    Korina @Damir120505
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                    @damir120505 You can learn more about reference and update time here -

                    https://community.windy.com/topic/11361/a-difference-between-reference-time-and-update-time

                    Korina

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                      Damir120505 @Korina
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                      @korina, I knew the information from the topic before.
                      Indeed, before starting to calculate weather forecasts for the future, the model analyzes the weather at 00 and 12 UTC and receives a "map" for this time. This time is called analysis or +000 hours. But the first available term in Windy is an hour or 3 after the analysis (+001 or +003 hour).

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                        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Damir120505
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                        @damir120505
                        For ECMWF Analysis is not disseminated together with Forecasts.
                        https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/documentation-and-support/data-delivery/dissemination-schedule

                        May be Windy chose not to acquire the Analysis but only the Forecasts.

                        Same for GFS
                        https://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/prodstat/

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                          Yves70 Meteorologist @idefix37 | Premium
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                          Yes, @idefix37 is right, there is a delay between analysis and forecast, as described in the link proposed by @idefix37. This should be the case for other models.
                          Price to acquire data and analysis can explain that people go for the forecast

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