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    • rayssa_brasilR Offline
      rayssa_brasil Clima Brazil @DiscoverPG
      last edited by

      @discoverpg concordo

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        steelek @Korina | Premium
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        Holy molly. Now I'll be able to see in the morning if I need additional pillow under my butt when planning to fly :D

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        • chrabC Offline
          chrab | Premium
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          Nice. We will see how it work. Some ideas:

          • calculate speed of lifting
          • rating soaring condition
          • better sounding, like eg. xcmeteo.net.
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          • KorinaK Offline
            Korina @whoosh
            last edited by

            @whoosh Hello, the calculations are performed by us, but we also use additional data sources.

            Korina

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            • KorinaK Offline
              Korina @chrab
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              @chrab Thank you, we will consider it :)

              Korina

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                vicb Paraglider @chrab | Premium
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                @chrab I just happened to have developped a plugin called "better sounding", see https://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-sounding

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                  vicb Paraglider @Korina | Premium
                  last edited by vicb

                  Pretty cool,

                  @FILIP_K Could you expand on how you compute the Top Of Lift and give details about the algo ?

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                    vicb Paraglider | Premium
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                    One small nit: thermals are still displayed at 11PM...

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                      vicb Paraglider @ozone | Premium
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                      @ozone You can customize the colors to your liking in the settings.

                      Go to Settings > Customize color scale > Thermals

                      To windy, may be add a "s" to scale ? ("Customize color scales")

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                        Filip_K Windy Staff @vicb
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                        @vicb Thanks for reporting that. We've noticed it too and we're looking into what is causing it.

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                        • Filip_KF Offline
                          Filip_K Windy Staff @vicb
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                          @vicb Sorry, that is something we want to keep to yourselves yet.
                          We're open to discussion on what should be forecasted under which conditions though.

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                          • KommandorKeenK Offline
                            KommandorKeen | Premium
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                            Excellent addition.
                            Ignore all comments regards extra soaring specific layers as most can be derived very broadly from thermal height. How fast a thermal goes up is first driven by the height it attains, and secondarily by the temperature profile on the way. So unless you are going to deliver a profile tool for soaring........ :-)

                            There is one additional piece of information that would be useful, and that is the buoyancy to shear ratio (b/s ratio) or bullshit ratio, as we call it. That helps determine if the thermal will be too broken up to use, even if it goes up a long way. That said, simplistically if its windy the B/S ratio is low, if it is light winds it is high. Exceptions are the record breaking long distance days on the flatlands where the airflow is laminar but strong and the temperature gradient favourable. Individuals chasing those records will go a bit beyond windy anyway.

                            Thanks for continuing to improve a great product. If you want to incorporate the Australian BOM ACCESS model send me a message.
                            Simon

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                              mteugels @Korina | Premium
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                              @korina Great Idea . Any chance to have PFD (Potential flight distance) based on the normal 18M span like Topmeteo/Skysight does ? Many thanks !

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                              • KorinaK Offline
                                Korina @mteugels
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                                @mteugels We will consider it :)

                                Korina

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                                • TZT Offline
                                  TZ Windy Staff
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                                  Hi, we are planning to add some more features, but not everything. The way we are walking is not a detailed flight calculator for questions like "how many points can I get tomorrow with my specific glider?", but rather "is it going to be good weather tomorrow?". For better insights we are planning to add/improve meteograms for points or routes and also improve sounding. These tools should work well together and be part of whole Windy ecosystem with all its features and layers.
                                  Would you for example be interested in maximum climb displayed as isolines?

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                                    luglidz @TZ | Premium
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                                    @tz What about maximum climb displayed as a line in the cloud box in an Airgram (similar to how you show the "pressure" line in a Meteogram).

                                    And I would love to see thermals AGL. This would be a better indicator for the expectable strength. Additionally, it would be easier to see, where the liftier airmasses are located.

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                                      gerrymcnicol @Korina | Premium
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                                      @korina Fantastic. Love it.

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                                      • TZT Offline
                                        TZ Windy Staff @luglidz
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                                        @luglidz maximal climb as a line is one of features we consider.
                                        Any AGL maps are problematic. It could be easily misunderstood. Also the topography of all models is very coarse, all mountains are much smaller than real mountains. So we are trying to avoid AGL maps. But height above ground could be rendered in a meteogram or other detailed chart.

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                                          rittels Code contributor @TZ | Premium
                                          last edited by rittels

                                          Great layer @Filip_K !

                                          @luglidz

                                          Here is a fun thing you can do:

                                          Open http://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-da

                                          then go to the thermal layer, and the picker will show thermal AGL, also PA and DA.

                                          (As @TZ said, elevation rather course, I use SRTM 1km resolution, so dont rely on this, else you might hit a mountain.)

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                                            chrab @vicb | Premium
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                                            @vicb It's great! Thanks.

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