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    • KorinaK Offline
      Korina @mteugels
      last edited by

      @mteugels We will consider it :)

      Korina

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      • TZT Offline
        TZ Windy Staff
        last edited by

        Hi, we are planning to add some more features, but not everything. The way we are walking is not a detailed flight calculator for questions like "how many points can I get tomorrow with my specific glider?", but rather "is it going to be good weather tomorrow?". For better insights we are planning to add/improve meteograms for points or routes and also improve sounding. These tools should work well together and be part of whole Windy ecosystem with all its features and layers.
        Would you for example be interested in maximum climb displayed as isolines?

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          luglidz @TZ | Premium
          last edited by

          @tz What about maximum climb displayed as a line in the cloud box in an Airgram (similar to how you show the "pressure" line in a Meteogram).

          And I would love to see thermals AGL. This would be a better indicator for the expectable strength. Additionally, it would be easier to see, where the liftier airmasses are located.

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          • gerrymcnicolG Offline
            gerrymcnicol @Korina | Premium
            last edited by

            @korina Fantastic. Love it.

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            • TZT Offline
              TZ Windy Staff @luglidz
              last edited by

              @luglidz maximal climb as a line is one of features we consider.
              Any AGL maps are problematic. It could be easily misunderstood. Also the topography of all models is very coarse, all mountains are much smaller than real mountains. So we are trying to avoid AGL maps. But height above ground could be rendered in a meteogram or other detailed chart.

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              • rittelsR Offline
                rittels Code contributor @TZ | Premium
                last edited by rittels

                Great layer @Filip_K !

                @luglidz

                Here is a fun thing you can do:

                Open http://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-da

                then go to the thermal layer, and the picker will show thermal AGL, also PA and DA.

                (As @TZ said, elevation rather course, I use SRTM 1km resolution, so dont rely on this, else you might hit a mountain.)

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                • chrabC Offline
                  chrab @vicb | Premium
                  last edited by

                  @vicb It's great! Thanks.

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                  • ozoneO Offline
                    ozone @vicb | Premium
                    last edited by

                    @vicb
                    Cant see thermals listed as a change colors option. Everything else is there, just not thermals

                    You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky
                    -amelia earhart

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                    • Avolar1A Offline
                      Avolar1 | Premium
                      last edited by Avolar1

                      Thank you very much, I am a paragliding pilot and this is very good!

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                      • KorinaK Offline
                        Korina @Avolar1
                        last edited by

                        @avolar1 Happy to hear it!

                        Korina

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                        • vicbV Offline
                          vicb Paraglider @ozone | Premium
                          last edited by vicb

                          @ozone towards the beginning of the list

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                          • T Offline
                            TaaviS
                            last edited by

                            Great work!

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                            • Luscombe8eL Offline
                              Luscombe8e Pilot | Premium
                              last edited by

                              So Great to see this, Yes it is going to need work. I am in the eastern US, as much as I prefer the ECMWF, the thermal forecast seems to best be depicted in reality by the GFS. Both ICON and ECMWF are way off when compared to other soaring forecast tools which have been honed and perfected over years for a specific type forecast. Thanks WIndy, I appreciate this and as with everything else you do, I am absolutely sure this will improve with time!

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                              • Luscombe8eL Offline
                                Luscombe8e Pilot @vicb | Premium
                                last edited by

                                @vicb tried it , it freezes up on me

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                                • khalilahliK Offline
                                  khalilahli | Premium
                                  last edited by

                                  Please gradient colors consistently and clearly on the convection areas

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                                  • Dariusz1964D Offline
                                    Dariusz1964 | Premium
                                    last edited by

                                    A very useful app, thanks

                                    darek1964

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                                    • K Offline
                                      KLSSoaring @Korina
                                      last edited by

                                      @korina - I'm really pleased to see this feature being added.

                                      Just looking at it this morning, its a bit too coarse to be useful to a soaring pilot. Its telling me, for example, that a broad area over central California will have 6 knt thermals today in the afternoon. Its smoothed from the coast to the Sierra Mtns. Here's a screenshot showing the current prediction for thermals:

                                      ![0_1621784200945_74b1b006-cb5f-42e6-a37a-c77937672072-image.png](Uploading 100%)

                                      Experience and other tools tell me (1) there is cloud in some areas today, (2) thermal lift is rarely or never smoothly distributed from coast to mountains like that and (3) its not going to be that strong. Here's a screenshot from Skysight showing what's more likely to be seen for thermal distribution and strength today.

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                                      Maybe there's no practical way to use better resolution and produce more localized predictions, but something more like the above Skysight image is what glider pilots would hope to see.

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                                      • vicbV Offline
                                        vicb Paraglider @KLSSoaring | Premium
                                        last edited by

                                        @klssoaring It's not 6knt - the layer shows top of lift (meters or ft)

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                                        • S Offline
                                          skydog | Premium
                                          last edited by

                                          This looks really useful, will it be possible to indicate thermal strength as well as forecast height?

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                                          • KorinaK Offline
                                            Korina @skydog
                                            last edited by

                                            @skydog We plan to improve the layer as time goes by:)

                                            Korina

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