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    • Lorenz FlyL Offline
      Lorenz Fly | Premium
      last edited by

      Hi, i‘m also using AROME a lot and was wondering what happend with arome. Looking forward to have it back in windy! Will you include NEMS also in the overview tools in the app? I see currently ECMF, Icon, meteoblue and GFS only. Thanks Lorenz

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        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Lorenz Fly
        last edited by idefix37

        @lorenz-fly
        I don’t think NEMS will be included in the overview tool for comparing models. NEMS is one of the models that are run by the Meteoblue company. They provide their METEOBLUE AI model for point forecast to Windy and this model to some extend includes already NEMS. See some discussion about it here.

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          bab73 | Premium
          last edited by

          I was worried too about Arome so l Hope it will be back as soon as possible ! Thanks 🙏

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          • alessiocastiA Offline
            alessiocasti @idefix37 | Premium
            last edited by alessiocasti

            @idefix37 said in AROME data outage:

            This is not a disservice ! If the model provider i.e. Meteo France announces a provisional outage, what Windy can do about it?

            Ok, what am I missing? Please, tell me the difference (without AROME) between PREMIUM user and NO-PAYING user...

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              idefix37 Sailor Moderator @alessiocasti
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              @alessiocasti
              When you subscribed you have probably noticed this table showing the difference between Premium users and non Premium users.

              F3909A45-6F46-4771-8634-55BD4116F219.jpeg

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              • KorinaK Offline
                Korina @alessiocasti
                last edited by

                @alessiocasti Hello, all the other models are still available with more frequent updates. AROME model has unfortunately outage and we cannot do anything about it, since it is under maintenance by its provider.

                Korina

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                • alessiocastiA Offline
                  alessiocasti @idefix37 | Premium
                  last edited by

                  @idefix37 yeah sure! I'm not able to read the high resolution 1h forecast with the premium subscription at the moment. Can you do it? Which model are you using?

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                    idefix37 Sailor Moderator @alessiocasti
                    last edited by idefix37

                    @alessiocasti
                    I understand that you are referring to the ‘High resolution 1 hour forecast’ as promised in the table I have shown here above. It should not be considered as ‘high resolution areal forecast’. For instance with or without Premium the GFS model keeps a 22km resolution. But it means that forecast data are provided with a high density per day i.e with 1h-step. I agree that in this case the term ‘high resolution’ can be confusing.
                    Personally I use the model of ECMWF (IFS) for several days forecast, then ICON and finally AROME for current and next day forecast.

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                    • KorinaK Offline
                      Korina @alessiocasti
                      last edited by

                      @alessiocasti Hello, as mentioned by @idefix37, I recommend to use ECMWF, which is considered the most accurate model and is available in 1hr steps.

                      Korina

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                        erick3195 @Korina
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                        @korina

                        Hello
                        I think that the AROME format has changed from 26 of January as stated in METEO FRANCE post
                        https://donneespubliques.meteofrance.fr/
                        I guess it may require some adaptations to be available again with Windy ?
                        Thanks
                        Erick Nuwendam

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                          Korina @erick3195
                          last edited by

                          @erick3195 The AROME model will be available on Windy once the provider finishes the maintenance process, which should be very soon.

                          Korina

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                            erick3195 @Korina
                            last edited by

                            @korina Thank you for all boaters who use and love windy before all their sea trips! All the best !

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                              erick3195 @Korina
                              last edited by

                              @korina Hello
                              I think that the evolution is now finished at METEO FRANCE since 26 January. https://donneespubliques.meteofrance.fr/?fond=produit&id_produit=131&id_rubrique=51
                              Other sites show AROME outputs (Windguru, Wxcharts, Shom...) on regular basis since then
                              I'm working for a METEO FRANCE subsidiary with contacts at METEO FRANCE- If I can help...just tell me
                              Please confirm
                              Thanks

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                              • Filip_KF Offline
                                Filip_K Windy Staff @erick3195
                                last edited by

                                @erick3195 Thank you for your insight. Our source is v2 dataset which still seems to be unavailable (no recent data): https://mf-models-on-aws.org/#arome-france-hd/v2/

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                                  marcopelle @Filip_K | Premium
                                  last edited by

                                  @filip_k Any idea from them about when will be available again? It's by far the most accurate in my area and I miss it a lot.

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                                  • Filip_KF Offline
                                    Filip_K Windy Staff @marcopelle
                                    last edited by

                                    @marcopelle We are totally dependent on v2 datasource (as mentioned many times before). Latest data available on https://mf-models-on-aws.org/#arome-france-hd/v2/ are still from January (2022-01-11).
                                    You can monitor this link to see if new data are available (as we are doing). Until new data appear, there is not much we can do about it

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                                      idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Filip_K
                                      last edited by

                                      @filip_k
                                      I imagine you have investigate this page too ?

                                      https://donneespubliques.meteofrance.fr/?fond=produit&id_produit=131&id_rubrique=51

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                                        erick3195 @Filip_K
                                        last edited by erick3195

                                        @filip_k I had confirmation that in the meantime WindGuru switched to V1 files (original METEO FRANCE AROME model outputs) which are available on regular basis
                                        I understood that conversion job remaining to be done for resuming V2 files (produced from V1 METEO FRANCE files) which are used by Windy, is on AWS repository side, which is an OpenMeteoData/AWS Public Dataset Program initiative/project, beyond METEO FRANCE duties
                                        All the best

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                                          daniel-fr06 | Premium
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Météo France server maintenance is over.
                                          Arôme data are available again. Grid v2 file format.
                                          Please update windy app to show Arôme model or I quit.

                                          https://donneespubliques.meteofrance.fr/?fond=produit&id_produit=131&id_rubrique=51

                                          Thank you

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                                            erick3195 @daniel-fr06
                                            last edited by

                                            @daniel-fr06 cf91145e-6377-4192-8a18-7a125fc62d81-image.png AROME is available on WindGuru. All the best

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