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    • petra.pikP Offline
      petra.pik @idefix37
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      @idefix37 thank you for the explanation :)

      Petra

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      • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
        Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @Kebab5
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        @kebab5
        If in USA, then https://mrms.nssl.noaa.gov/qvs/product_viewer/
        In general you may expect hail if in radar you see echoes with dBZ more than 50

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          Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @melanie75
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          @melanie75
          In Greece, and in some other countries, we use "hail nets"

          4c020abd-54ec-4ca1-92ae-32189ef4c0a6-εικόνα.png

          Also, the Greek Agricultural Insurance Organization runs a
          Hail Suppression Program with Airborne Means.
          The Program is based on the conceptual model of "Beneficial Competition", introducing artificial
          nuclei in the hailstorms that compete with the natural ones for the available supercooled water,
          forming smaller hailstones, thus increasing the possibility to melt during their fall, reaching the
          ground as rain.

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            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ
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            @gkikas-lgpz
            In France hail nets are used too, in fruit trees plantations.

            Are you using cloud seeding with silver iodide or other chemical as explained here:
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
            I don’t think it is used in France.

            Here there are people using locally hail cannon:
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_cannon

            But difficult to prove that it works very well.

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            • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
              Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @idefix37
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              @idefix37
              We use seeding of Silver Iodide (AgI) or dry ice from aircrafts to the target area.
              For more info:

              https://www.3dsa.gr/en/activities-en/weather-modification

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                idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ
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                @gkikas-lgpz
                Interesting, so in Greece they use the same technology to increase rainfall ? I heard the Chineses carry a similar program for rain too.
                In France in some vineyards and fruit trees plantations they use anti-hail rockets but not planes.

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                  Kebab5 @idefix37
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                  @idefix37 Thank you for the information! I believe the Satellite Infra+ layer is the one I can see when I go to Menu>More Layers>Satellite>More in the bottom>IR.

                  @petra-pik thank you for the point on 'Precip. type'. I was also initially thinking that it would give an idea.

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                    idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Kebab5
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                    @kebab5 said in How to know if it will hail:

                    I believe the Satellite Infra+ layer is the one I can see when I go to Menu>More Layers>Satellite>More in the bottom>IR.

                    Yes, select Infra+

                    2955093C-F5AC-4283-ABA2-9EEBEA4034FE.jpeg

                    Risk of hail is shown by red / dark red top clouds

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                    • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                      Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @idefix37
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                      @idefix37
                      Back in the 90's we run a rain enhancement project
                      but the effectiveness was questionable.
                      .
                      Yesterday's hail as seen from wx. radar south of Larissa
                      and the flight path of aircraft for hail suppression .

                      a92d07e1-09d6-4603-af8d-5288fe085f22-εικόνα.png

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                        mytom2 @melanie75
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                        @melanie75 said in How to know if it will hail:

                        @kebab5 said in How to know if it will hail:

                        Hi @wordle online

                        I'm not an expert so for me it is difficult to interpret all the values I see in the app but I'm specifically interested in knowing the probability of hail. I've read that some numbers may mean severe storms including hail but I couldn't really understand how to read the data in the app. I think it would be nice to have a map that shows hail forecast but I'm not sure if this is scientifically possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

                        I think we need to depend on the hydrometeorological center to know exactly about the weather.

                        wordle online

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                        • laura79L Offline
                          laura79 @Gkikas LGPZ
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                          @Gkikas-LGPZ eso es una excelente idea👏

                          maria laura

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                            JaimeAnderson
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                            Confused by all the weather app data, especially hail probability? I was too! I found that focusing on the "precipitation type" and looking for "hail" or "ice pellets" was key. If those are mentioned alongside a higher precipitation percentage (above 40%), that usually meant a higher likelihood of hail in my experience. Anyone else have similar insights?

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