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    • J Offline
      jancellor @jancellor | Premium
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      And another issue with resetting. When you click somewhere on the map it resets the position of the map so that the clicked location is in the centre. This is a problem if you click near the edge of the areas of a particular model, because the map recentres on the point, then the model switches to another model because it considers the view to be outside the range of what is applicable for that model.

      For example, choose ICON-D2, sounding, then click on Gloucester in the UK. The map scrolls so that Gloucester is in the centre of the non-sounding part of the map, then the model switches to ICON-EU. (I think it is using the centre of the whole screen - including the portion of the map that is hidden by the sounding pop-up - to determine whether the model can be used. So you have two inconsistent definitions of centre.)

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      • marekdM Offline
        marekd Windy Staff @jancellor
        last edited by

        @jancellor Thanks, will be fixed into next version.

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        • Szabolcs GavallérS Offline
          Szabolcs Gavallér @marekd
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          @marekd hi, it seems there's no timeline panning. This way I can't see how the weather evolves, I cannot filter out good and bad moments, minimums and maximums. Please help.

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          • idefix37I Offline
            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Szabolcs Gavallér
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            @szabolcs-gavallér
            With new sounding the timeline is still available on desktop in browser version.
            But not in the mobile app.

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            • marekdM Offline
              marekd Windy Staff @Szabolcs Gavallér
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              @szabolcs-gavallér Thanks for the suggestion! I think it could be changed to see the timeline even on mobile devices.

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                ecampetella2 | Premium
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                Thank you very much for this new tool! I can imagine the great effort to develop it. It is really very useful. Surely further updates will bring more information!

                Enzo Campetella

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                  AlFly | Premium
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                  Thanks for the good work. Very impressive new graphics. As others have suggested, I'd like to see 2 updates to restore some lost functionality:

                  1. "ft" scale rather than "m" when that is selected in settings
                  2. Ability to scroll timeline in the mobile app.
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                  • Dieter 0D Offline
                    Dieter 0 @ajbeevers | Premium
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                    @ajbeevers I had the same remark.

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                    • KorinaK Offline
                      Korina @AlFly
                      last edited by

                      @AlFly Hi, the ft and m is a bug, we will fix this in the next update.

                      Korina

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                      • rbarbsR Offline
                        rbarbs | Premium
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                        This is definitely better! I still find the simplicity of the sounding plugin easier, it is also nice on that that you can scroll on your mouse to see the evolution of the day and the zoom being just a button is better for me.
                        On the better sounding they also have the windspeed graph as well as the barbs and that is helpful for spotting shear layers and changes in the airmass.
                        An indicator on the graph that clearly shows the top of the boundary layer would be magical and if you could be find a way to indicate thermal strength that'd be even more amazing for paraglider/glider pilots.
                        Thank you

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                          merlin64 | Premium
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                          Super, this is what i was looking for a long time!

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                          • marcelwindM Offline
                            marcelwind | Premium
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                            I have only just found out about these excellent changes (was on vacation), kudos to the team! I use soundings on a daily basis, and these features make me use Windy even more, rather than using the sluggish weather application on our workstation we have in our workplace.

                            I find the sounding functionality works best on a desktop-browser environment rather than on iOS/Android. This is because on the web-environment one can scroll through time while checking soundings and this does not seem possible on a mobile device. Adding this possibility on mobile devices would be a huge improvement for those users.

                            In any case, thanks a lot and keep up the good work!

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                              idefix37 Sailor Moderator @marcelwind
                              last edited by idefix37

                              @marcelwind
                              Concerning the non-possibility of scrolling trough the time line on mobile device, it should be fixed as it is said several posts above:
                              https://community.windy.com/topic/21263/new-sounding-with-radiosonde-measurements/20

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                                jancellor | Premium
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                                One more vote for scrolling through the timeline on mobile.

                                Also can we have an option for the green dotted line for thermals to be drawn automatically based on the actual surface temperature and surface dew point? This should really be the default. It is rare to want to know what a parcel of air would do if released into the atmosphere with some random temperature and random humidity.

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                                  belniakm
                                  last edited by belniakm

                                  The feature is amazing and designed in a much more convenient way than on other websites :)
                                  Have you considered adding a calculation of CAPE and CIN? Also, I bet for some sub-tropical latitudes the tropopause might be higher than 150hPa, therefore extending the Y axis might be reasonable.

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                                    Super dumb question: I apologize, but what does the green line represent on the new model skew-t; I think it looks like it goes up the moist adiabats and involves mixing ratios, but I am way out of my element. Either way, thank you very much for your time and consideration. You guys are constantly updating and improving. Much much appreciated.

                                    -Mike Aerographer's Mate USN

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                                      Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @March1993
                                      last edited by Gkikas LGPZ

                                      @March1993
                                      The green dotted line represents parcel lapse rate.
                                      @marekd
                                      Maybe in the info (i) you must add the word "green"
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                                        mikachu1983
                                        last edited by mikachu1983

                                        Hello,
                                        Here is really a great application that will allow in the blink of an eye to assess the air masses to come.

                                        I have a question about its use. Maybe a silly question...
                                        Weather models "smooth" the real terrain. This means that a real altitude of 1631m is indicated at ~1011m on the emagram (example).
                                        As a result, the Iso-R curve begins its rise from the 1011m level and not 1631m. Also, it doesn't start from the dew point temperature curve as I learned to plot lifts. This means that it quickly crosses the dry adiabatic.

                                        Capture d’écran 2022-10-14 134355.png

                                        Is there a possibility to artificially modify the altitude of the base of the emagram? Going from 1011m to 1631m?
                                        And make the line following the Iso-R curve start from the dew point temperature curve? Like in the picture below?

                                        Capture d’écran 2022-10-14 135350.png

                                        I may be using the tool incorrectly...
                                        Thank you for your work and your clarifications.
                                        Mikael

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                                          marekd Windy Staff @mikachu1983
                                          last edited by marekd

                                          @mikachu1983 Thank you for bringing it up! In fact, we have had some pretty fiery internal discussions about this issue. In short: it is currently not possible.

                                          We dealt a lot with the following situations:

                                          • If the terrain is lower than the model altitude, should we display the values? Even if they are interpolated?
                                          • If the terrain is higher than the model altitude, should we clip the non-existing heights for that location?
                                          • Or should we allow users to choose how they want to display it?

                                          The result was: let's not deal with it for now, it is already too complicated. Let's wait for feedback and see how important it is for others.

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                                            aq_sirwin
                                            last edited by

                                            Appreciate all the work done to bring this functionality online. Love the ability to arrow through the different soundings and the cursor read-out is a really nice feature. Have had some issues with low-level inversions not plotting in complex terrain. They show up for coarser model resolutions but not for the NAM or HRRR soundings. For example, here's a forecast sounding from Reno, NV from the NAM on a calm morning at 6am. I would expect some kind of inversion, but the plot is showing nearly dry adiabatic. fc456f14-92cc-440e-ab7e-4536f711ea18-image.png

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