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    • idefix37I
      idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Steph Bond
      last edited by idefix37

      @Steph-Bond
      Are you sure that BOM always show soundings with barbs pointing down? (Barbs are what you call flag i.e. like barbs of feather on the arrow)
      Here is an example with all barbs in fact on the right side of the arrows …. as your example above.

      DC649EAC-F17D-4D61-ADB9-0BFB93C50CD7.jpeg

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        stitch Meteorologist @idefix37 | Premium
        last edited by stitch

        @idefix37

        The convention is that the arrows/feathers on the wind barbs point towards the area of lower pressure.

        In the case of the southern hemisphere (BoM image above), for a westerly wind, the lower pressure is to the right of the wind (down the page). And this is the opposite case for the northern hemisphere.

        For us folk in the southern hemisphere, the wind barbs appear visually wrong.....it is still the right information - just not what we are used to viewing.

        Can you adjust the code generating the image to account for +/- latittudes for the location?

        Personally, the direction of the wind barbs is not a biggie for me :)

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        • idefix37I
          idefix37 Sailor Moderator @stitch
          last edited by idefix37

          @stitch

          I was knowing this convention that the barbs of the arrow-feather, showing wind direction and speed, point to the low pressure area on a wind map.
          Concerning a sounding diagram it seems you are right.
          Here are 2 examples in North hemisphere shown at 500hPa level:

          CC3C7053-84D1-4BFC-B31E-46C102557AA9.jpeg

          594C3CF1-CDAA-44EA-AC8C-D498050071D1.jpeg

          In South hemisphere, in Windy Sounding forecast, the barbs are shown pointing outwards the low pressure area, which is inconsistent. The wind direction is correct (clockwise in low pressure areas) but barbs should point to the opposite:

          9B7254ED-2109-4443-BBE1-69A7CE6F4439.jpeg

          10D96D91-6D7E-4A72-A7D8-AB77B17D9421.jpeg

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          • idefix37I
            idefix37 Sailor Moderator
            last edited by idefix37

            BTW speaking of wind barbs, a lot of people don't know why we use that word. Early weather maps showed the direction and speed of the wind by arrows with a tip and feather fletching. Weather map in 1888:

            25BB898D-5A5D-45F7-9B24-2740AD727558.jpeg

            Nowadays the barbs are only on one side of the arrow and the tip is missing, replaced by a circle in surface analysis maps. Barbs point towards the low pressure zone as said in the previous posts.

            752D6340-720A-4E5B-8610-21CE9848430C.jpeg

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              stitch Meteorologist @stitch | Premium
              last edited by

              @marekd

              Can you provide a solution to the wind barb/arrow direction within the sounding tool to follow the convention that the barb/arrows point towards the area of lowest pressure?

              For the current Sounding Tool....when the latitude changes to -ve (Sth Hem), the barb/arrows need to be drawn on the opposite side to what is currently being displayed.

              W'ly wind
              in the Nth Hem: point to the left (up - in sounding tool)
              in the Sth Hem: point to the right (down - in sounding tool)

              You can follow the discussion for added comments.

              Thx
              Stitch

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              • KorinaK
                Korina @airmalik
                last edited by

                @airmalik Hi, thank you for the report. We will fix it in the next version.

                Korina

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                • Mark MortimerM
                  Mark Mortimer | Premium
                  last edited by

                  Love the new zoomable sounding. Each time I close it down, I have to re-enable the paragliding spots toggle if I want to look at a new site. Don’t think I had to do this with the previous sounding and I don’t see an advantage to it. Is this a small bug?

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                  • KorinaK
                    Korina @Mark Mortimer
                    last edited by

                    @Mark-Mortimer Hello, it is correct since the new sounding is technically a POI overlay, so when you select it, the other overlay gets unselected.

                    Korina

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                      fcrgb | Premium
                      last edited by

                      Great job with the new sounding! Really love it. Only on my mobile device (Android) the time bar, were you can adjust day and daytime, disappears now. This makes it quite hard to check the development over the day. I hope you can make the time bar topmost or so :)

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                      • KorinaK
                        Korina @fcrgb
                        last edited by

                        @fcrgb Hi, thanks for the feedback. I discussed this with our development team, and we will consider adding the timeline back into the future release.

                        Korina

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                          duducardo | Premium
                          last edited by

                          Bonjour,
                          D'autres paramètres du radio sondage devraient être affichés.
                          Li/cape/cin .........

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                            pepalter | Premium
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                            I like this tool very much.
                            I've realized that today forecast sounding don't offer near radiosounding like before.
                            And another thing that have changed is that when you are in a radiosounding, the option to see historical radiosounding have dissapeared.

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                            • Antoinette JeffersonA
                              Antoinette Jefferson
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                              This makes keeping track of progress during the day challenging. I'm crossing my fingers that the clock will reach the summit.

                              geometry dash

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                                wxgeek @marekd | Premium
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                                @marekd The ability to compare or "swipe-back" to the previous observed or forecast sounding would be great. I currently don't see a way to do this in the current version, correct ?

                                Pete Curran

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                                • Threlfa7T
                                  Threlfa7 | Premium
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                                  Great tool! I've noticed the lowest data is always the 1000hPa level. Is it possible to show data lower down in the atmosphere please?

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                                  • TZT
                                    TZ Administrator @Threlfa7
                                    last edited by

                                    @Threlfa7 No, but there are also ground data and some models have layer 100m above ground level.

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                                    • MikeMaxisM
                                      MikeMaxis
                                      last edited by

                                      Seems to pop up whenever and is annoying and may interfere with the map in general

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                                      • Peter GehringP
                                        Peter Gehring
                                        last edited by

                                        Wie mache ich das Update?

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                                          Suty Administrator @Peter Gehring
                                          last edited by

                                          @Peter-Gehring What exactly do you mean? I see that you already have Premium account.

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                                          • Brent DixonB
                                            Brent Dixon @jancellor | Premium
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                                            Bumping this, i would really appreciate this being added, or at least a way to enter the DP and temp that isn't via getting the mouse exactly in the right place.

                                            It's difficult for people with movement issues to get it in the spot.

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