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    • Mokayacht
      Mokayacht | Premium last edited by

      Hi all,

      Has anyone noticed that the route planning feature on "Boat" setting has incorrect wind and swell directions compared to the normal forecast and other sources of forecast?

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      • idefix37
        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Mokayacht last edited by idefix37

        @Mokayacht
        Hi, I would recommend that you see More option at bottom left corner of your screen. The wind direction reference must be set to North up if you want that wind and waves directions in the Route planner match with the forecasts
        See additional information in this related post:
        https://community.windy.com/topic/21584/route-planning-wind-barbs-options?_=1663095054916
        So it is not a bug.

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        • volkanturkay
          volkanturkay @idefix37 | Premium last edited by volkanturkay

          @idefix37 Hi. This works for web. But how can we set north up in IOS app? I can't find it. Wind barbs selection tool is nowhere.

          And why it's not north up by default, while the whole app shows everything north up? Wouldn't be better?

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          • idefix37
            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @volkanturkay last edited by idefix37

            @volkanturkay
            Yes, in the current mobile app version there is no setting to change the wind direction reference.
            Developers should change it for North up in next app update, I hope.
            Or to add the 3 optional settings as in the browser version.

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            • pelenter
              pelenter @idefix37 | Premium last edited by

              @idefix37 agree. Should be changed.

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              • fnees
                fnees @idefix37 | Premium last edited by

                @idefix37 Thanks. But what IS the reference, please? I will be sailing from E to W. Wind is E. App shows wind coming from W/left/90 degrees port....![alt text](image urlScreenshot_20230723_101951_Windy.jpg )

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                • idefix37
                  idefix37 Sailor Moderator @fnees last edited by idefix37

                  @fnees

                  The wind/waves direction reference is “Left to right”. See what it means :

                  https://community.windy.com/topic/27091/wind-routing-bug/3

                  I see on your screenshot that the speed has not been turn on.

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                  • fnees
                    fnees @idefix37 | Premium last edited by

                    @idefix37 thank you! I got it, a new relative wind.
                    Laughing loud here!

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                      WxFrog | Premium last edited by

                      Same with VFR or IFR planning - wind direction is completely off!
                      See example trip. WInd trails show westerly winds in 3000 ft, which represents current weather. Planning strip shows wind from the south??? I am a real fan and premium user of the windy app but this appears to be nonsense!
                      IMG_6775.PNG

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                      • idefix37
                        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @WxFrog last edited by idefix37

                        @WxFrog
                        If you read the posts here above, you should have understood it is an unusual setting, but it doesn’t prevent you to use the Route planner. Especially since this setting is used in aviation, it is not a non sense !
                        Or do I need to explain it again ?

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                          WxFrog @idefix37 | Premium last edited by

                          @idefix37
                          Please, explain the setting that shows barbs representing wind from the west when the wind is coming from the west.

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                          • idefix37
                            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @WxFrog last edited by idefix37

                            @WxFrog
                            The wind barbs in the Route planner table for flight are not defined in relation to the North direction as the wind is on the map, but in relation to the motion of your aircraft. It is therefore the relative wind to the flight direction.
                            It is set from “Left to right”, this means that wind barbs are defined as if the plane was flying from left to right of the screen.
                            In your example, you fly from N to S and the wind is W, so you receive the wind on your right side. Therefore, in the table the wind barbs are pointing from bottom to top.
                            In the explanation I gave 5 posts here above, you should have clicked on this link. Please click on it !
                            https://community.windy.com/topic/27091/wind-routing-bug/3
                            It shouldn’t it be difficult for you to replace the drawing of a boat with the one of an airplane?

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                              WxFrog @idefix37 | Premium last edited by

                              @idefix37
                              Thank you for the explanation. Actually, I had read this before but I cannot use this setting for VFR or IFR route planning purposes.
                              This sort of "reference" might probably be important for sailors, which I am not.
                              Could you please make a poll to evaluate how many pilot users would appreciate north reference wind barbs, independent of own speed and track. Or even provide this setting as an option.
                              By the way, even when planning a northbound trip with zero speed (or 1 kt) in westerly winds, the barb dirction seems odd???
                              Please, I know that I am not alone.

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                              • idefix37
                                idefix37 Sailor Moderator @WxFrog last edited by idefix37

                                @WxFrog
                                Being only a Windy user, I can't do a poll or offer another setting.
                                This way of showing the direction of the wind is not used by sailors. I understood that it is used by pilots! Since the last update of the mobile application, you are the only pilot who requested the Nord reference. All the others who requested it were sailors, about 3 to 4.
                                I'm sure the Left to Right setting was left on by mistake, because it is the default setting in the browser version.

                                09F20E15-9D55-45CA-97E1-C89792DEBD97.jpeg

                                And I guess North Up setting will be used as default setting in the next update, I hope…

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                                  WxFrog @idefix37 | Premium last edited by

                                  @idefix37
                                  Thank you for your patience. In the meantime I checked the setting "north up" in the desktop app and it works fine for me. Solved :-)
                                  As soon as the mobile app will feature north up as a default or will allow selection (more option) I am completely happy.
                                  Thanks again for your continuing support. Brilliant app, by the way!

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