10 day forecast gone
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@burrelltb There is nothing I have found that is as easy to use and understand, visually pleasing, and has this much information at the users fingertips. They've truly done a fantastic job.
From my experience as a meteorologist, I've spent years searching for different websites and models to compare manually and all for a price. The ability to compare multiple forecast models yourself incredibly quickly and easily is amazing and shouldn't be taken for granted. Not to mention the integration of different data layers available is pretty outstanding. -
Also disappointed to see the 10 day forecast disappear from the basic app. I understand it’s a business and the end goal is to make money. Unfortunately in this world of subscription based services this is one app I can do without. Don’t get me wrong, I love the app, but when everyone is trying to reach into my pocket it’s difficult to justify when I can go elsewhere to get the information for free.
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@evolab People are complaining for a great reason. I share my sport with a huge group of people around the world and many do not speak english so they do not have the ability to get on here and have this discussion and a lot live in third world countries. 30 dollars a year is a HUGE expense for most of the world (beyond the wealthy countries like usa canada and all of europe.) So many people are having issues with this. And to say what someones financial situation is based off of the ability to take 5 minutes to try to show a company that this is wrong doesn't make sense at all. It shows me that this is an app that many people rely on and taking away a basic feature just because they do not want ads is super strange when they havent actually asked the non paying people what they would rather have. My whole argument is that they should ask the free users what they prefer instead of just assuming everyone would rather have limited options with no ads.
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@Korina I am asking you to reconsider this and also really want to encourage you to ask your users which one they prefer rather than assuming. Limited access with no ads sounds WAY worse than basic access with ads. There are a lot of people in third world countries who use your app to do their sports too and can not afford 30 dollars a year just to see a 10 day forecast and no other premium services needed.
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@whitmart14 The annual subscription is 18.99 dollars, not 30. The price is relatively low, other similar services charge 20 dollars monthly, not annually, so please consider the bigger picture and actual prices on the market before making such a statement. The 6-day forecast with all layers and models is available freely, so you can still use Windy without Premium.
We all have various subscriptions, so in the end, it is a question of priorities.
Korina
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@Korina So many apps out there money grabbing, the biggest regret I have now is recommending Windy to so many people. Hopefully there will be enough negative press about this decision to see it changed. I can't think that the normal userbase of windy is going to see this as anything other than shocking given that this information has been available to normal non subscribers for years it's obviously affordable to continue to do so.
Comparing it to other services is not as effective as comparing it to itself only a week ago, when all us complainers that aren't paying the money could access the same information we've been accessing for literally years on end.
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@burrelltb Additional to this, it's not even functionally a 6 day forecast, if you click on an area to get the 6 day forecast, half of the final day's wind data is actually obscured by the advert for getting people to try and pay for the subscription to get the 10 day forecast. So it hasn't even gone from 10 days to 6 days, it's 10 days to 5 and a half.
The hilarious part of this is the bit where you're saying it's so us free users don't have the fucking inconvenience of ads effecting our user experience, absolute bollocks. You've literally used your own ad to spoil half that day's wind forecast with not a tiny little thought for the free users. Just goes to show the reasons you're giving boil down to "mo money plx".
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@Korina its over $30 in Australia, & $47.54 for 1 year. In today's economic environment many people won't have the discretionary spend available. As you (curtly) said "Please consider the bigger picture and actual prices on the market before making such a statement".
Per https://app.sensortower.com/android/publisher/publisher/Windyty%2BSE and 10m+ downloads - if you charged .99c/year for all users I'm sure you'd have significantly higher revenue and significantly less inflammation. I gave when you pleaded for donations to (I thought) keep the app free and now I feel misled. I understand you need to make money but there are more constructive ways for Ivo and the team to get a Porsche.If you ignore it, you accept it.
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Yep, basically came here to say the same thing. Windy has made a bad decision and should consider reversing it or they will lose a ton of users.
Value add and charge subscription by all means but removing something as basic and prevalent as 10 day forecast and rainfall totals to try and leverage people into subscriptions and you're going to take a significant blow to your reputation and lose users.
Massive shame but another site will see this as an opportunity and will dig deep to compete.
All the best. Look forward to seeing others recommendations for alternatives.
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@coolwhite well said.
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Hi There,
I can understand why the 10 day forecast is gone now. I know, the bread is not free even for you, but let me explain my point of view here.
Your logic here is wrong, because you are trying to cash one of the least reliable features in your app... your forecast works best within Czech Republic in the range of 1 to 3 days, not more.
I would not mind paying for your app, even though I know I am really cheap in this area. But for God's sake, not for the 10 days overview...
Yeah and not 600 CZK per year...
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@Quanyaye You are referring to the one-time purchase for 29.99 USD, but the normal annual subscription is 18.99 USD.
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Hi @Jakub-Smitka, that is the point - we are moving to Premium such features that are not vital, but many people want them. Since we removed just last 3 days of forecast, Windy remains 95% usable for free users. As you indicated you can not make any decision based on 10-day forecast, because it is totally unreliable. So if you need forecast and weather tools for your planning and decision making, you can use Windy as before and pay nothing for it. In the previous version of Premium many people were cancelling with comments: "There is no difference between Free and Premium. I am happy with Free version. Buying Premium is just like a donation...And so on." To have a sustainable income, we need to give more value for Premium. If we just wanted to get money, we could have closed the free version completely, but we didn't. We did not remove any feature that is necessary for the forecasting, we just removed feature that is very popular.
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@burrelltb Cursing is not allowed on this community forum, I believe it is possible to express your opinion without it as the majority of users here..
To explain the situation a little more. Windy has grown significantly in the past years, and so has our user base. Showing forecast to millions of users daily and maintaining precise data increases our costs immensely; it is simply how infrastructure works. We want to keep Windy ad-free and continue improving it, and it is what support from our subscribers helps us to do.
Korina
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If there is any reason for me not to upgrade to Premium, it is the new payment barrier beyond the fifth day. Why should I pay for something regarding the fact that the probabilty after the third day is less than 50% as has been proved? To say it with Winston Churchill: "It is always wise to look ahead, but difficult to look further than you can see."
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@Henry_K If you don't see added value in the 10-day forecast outlook, then you can still use 6-day forecast for free.
Korina
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The reason for the cursing is the frustration caused by the obvious lying that's happening on your part, on the one hand you say this:
@Korina said in 10 day forecast gone:
@whitmart14 As I mentioned in my previous response, we put a great emphasis on user experience, this is why we continue to avoid displaying ads, as they would be incredibly frustrating to the majority of users.
On the other hand, anyone still using the service for free can CLEARLY see what I'm talking about, your own ads covering your own content. If you're serious about your answers at least tell the truth. This "6 day forecast" is partly covered by one of your own ads. You can hardly stay true to the product when you're not even considering what's being written by others. Drawing attention to the fact that I used a curse word is just deflection from the fact that YOUR OWN ADS COVER YOUR OWN 6 DAY FORECAST.
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@Korina said in 10 day forecast gone:
@Henry_K If you don't see added value in the 10-day forecast outlook, then you can still use 6-day forecast for free.
You mean 5.5 day forecast remember, your own ads are covering your own content on the final day. What a terrible thing to do to the free users, covering your own forecast with ads, the very thing you promised you weren't doing.
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@burrelltb It will be fixed.
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