Weather Models Wildly Inaccurate
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I'm currently off Norway, where all the models are suggesting that it is blowing 14-15 knots from the East.
It is actually blowing 35-40 knots, and has been for the last 6 hours.
We have been watching weather forecasts closely.for the past few weeks, and they have been consistently 20 knots below what were actually experiencing.
How can we tell the forecasters that they are so wrong, we have lost all faith? -
@edbevan
It is not forecasters who provide weather prediction in Windy, but weather models.
Numerical weather prediction (NWP) involves huge computation programs carried out by the major weather Centers. So, unfortunately, this is no chance that your observations can be used to modify and improve these weather models.
Did you try all models available in your area? -
@idefix37 hi, yes, I know its models not forecasters. I have checked all the models available in my location and they are all suggesting lower than that which we experience.
The ship I am on is also paying for a 'personalised' forecast, which is also consistently lower than experienced. -
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@edbevan
It is strange that you find such discrepancy between model forecasts and observations. For the wind or other parameters it is quite easy to explain discrepancies on rough terrain, specially in mountains. But at sea models are quite accurate except special conditions (in summer, convective conditions, thermal breezes…).
For instance here we had very recently the strong storm named Ciáran in Brittany and Britain (12 Beaufort winds). This storm has been perfectly predicted by all models.
At which latitude off Norway are you experiencing thes discrepancies? -
@idefix37 we are off Southern Norway, south of Larvik, heading towards Oslofjord. Noticed the UKV model is more accurate. The most accurate aspect of the forecasts has been the trend, but 20 knots more than predicted.
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@edbevan
According to your location description you seem not so far from the coast. The ECMWF has a 9 km resolution, which means that the wind forecast can be lower if you are close to the coast. In this case a higher resolution model like UKV with a 4 km resolution in this area gives better values.
w/customized colour scale -
@tuxcs_
The AROME - MetCoOp with a 2.5 km resolution would surely give a more granular prediction.
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/wefo/32/2/waf-d-16-0099_1.xml