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    What meteorological phenomena are causing these rains?

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    • mbmpcM
      mbmpc Clima Brazil @idefix37 | Premium
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      @idefix37 What does this kilometer mean in forecast models? Screenshot_10.png

      What do these pressure lines mean, how does it influence meteorology?
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      • idefix37I
        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @mbmpc
        last edited by idefix37

        @mbmpc
        The kilometers is their resolution. This means the ECMWF model provides forecast values on a 9km x 9km grid (like pixels of a photo). But between these points, values are smoothed by interpolation by Windy to give a continuous layer.
        Pressure isolines, or isobars, show the atmospheric pressure field. You can check it with the Pressure layer + Pressure isolines.
        The pressure differences produce the wind.

        To go deeply into details I think you better try to get more knowledge about meteorology with specialised books or websites.
        I typed โ€œmeteorology basicโ€ in my browser search bar and found plenty of websites like this one for example:
        https://www.kavas.com/sailors-guide/chapter-a-the-basics/a2-the-weather-basic-principles.html

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        • mbmpcM
          mbmpc Clima Brazil @idefix37 | Premium
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          @idefix37 Screenshot_12.png

          Could you explain this graph to me, why there is no rain on Saturday and there is on Monday?

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          • idefix37I
            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @mbmpc
            last edited by idefix37

            @mbmpc
            It seems to me that when you see a cloud, for you it automatically rains. No, clouds donโ€™t automatically bring rain.

            To have clouds in the sky and to see precipitation, the air must reach a relative humidity of 100% and more, so that water molecules can gathered. It is called condensation. When the droplets have reached a certain diameter, they are big enough to fall and give rain.

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            • mbmpcM
              mbmpc Clima Brazil @idefix37 | Premium
              last edited by

              @idefix37 None of the forecast models, nor the storm layer, showed rain or storms. What model is used in the rain, thunder layer?

              In the rain layer, thunder showed rain and in the satellite image. Which to trust layers or models?
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              • idefix37I
                idefix37 Sailor Moderator @mbmpc
                last edited by idefix37

                @mbmpc
                The model used in the layer is the model you have selected in the menu !
                Near the models list see About these data to get more information.
                Satellite layer is observation by satellite
                Rain, thunder layer is prediction by a weather model.
                It so obvious that you seem to trolling us here !

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                • mbmpcM
                  mbmpc Clima Brazil @idefix37 | Premium
                  last edited by

                  @idefix37 You didn't understand my question, because the forecast models didn't show rain on Sunday.

                  And in the layer it was raining.

                  I'm not trying to troll, I just don't have knowledge of the weather and the windy website. And I need to clear my doubts.

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                  • idefix37I
                    idefix37 Sailor Moderator @mbmpc
                    last edited by idefix37

                    If you consider I did not reply to your questions, you must admit they are not clear at all.

                    @mbmpc said

                    What model is used in the rain, thunder layer?

                    Again, the model used in a layer is the model which is selected in the menu.

                    In the rain layer, thunder showed rain and in the satellite image.

                    What do you want to say?

                    Which to trust layers or models?

                    You seem to mix what is a weather model, a layer and a satellite view.
                    Forecast in Windy comes from weather model data computed by major weather centers. This data is transformed by Windy to appear as a layer on the base map. So you canโ€™t say โ€œwhich to trust layers or modelsโ€
                    The Satellite layer comes from data provided by satellites observation.

                    None of the forecast models, nor the storm layer, showed rain or storms.

                    Global models with a low or a medium resolution are not able to forecast local thunderstorms and convective rains. So in your area without high resolution models you cannot expect to see a precise forecast for this type of rain. Even in the areas where these models are available, you never know precisely where the rain will fall.

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                    • idefix37I
                      idefix37 Sailor Moderator @mbmpc
                      last edited by idefix37

                      @mbmpc
                      Where did the layers show rain?
                      Probably your Satellite view shows a thunderstorm.
                      Your screenshot with a rain layer forecast by a weather model (but we donโ€™t know which one) shows rain.
                      And your screenshot of weather models comparison does not show rain? But where is your point forecast ??
                      If the point is out of the rain area in the rain layer, it is not surprising that the table shows no rain.
                      Here is an example where you can see that the point forecast shows rain same in the layer by ECMWF.

                      F90029E2-670F-482C-8C24-22586B64684A.jpeg

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                      • CaefixC
                        Caefix | Premium
                        last edited by Caefix

                        ๐ŸŒฆ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ”Ž๐Ÿ“š Great pdfs:

                        ๐ŸŒ Meteorology Today Introduction to Weather, Climate, and the Environment
                        ๐Ÿ”„ essentials-of-meteorology-an-invitation-to-the-atmosphere
                        ๐ŸŒช Practical_Meteorology-v1.02b-WholeBookColor
                        ๐Ÿ’ญ the-atmosphere-an-introduction-to-meteorology
                        ๐Ÿ”ฎ Global-Guide-to-Tropical-Cyclone-Forecasting

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