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    ECMWF 10 day forecast display shows only 6h intervals for last 3 days

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    • LureL Offline
      Lure | Premium
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      When we are planning sailing regatta, we sometimes look in 10 day forecasts from ECMWF to get the idea and to better decide on the area we want to sail.

      When I open Windy for specific location, it shows by default 7 day forecast, that can be expanded to 10 day forecast like this:
      5d846dd7-05ed-4446-b188-0796757e6b29-image.png

      Question: why are last three days shown only in 6h intervals?

      When I go to Compare forecasts there is 3h forecast even for last three days for ECMWF (but here I cannot see wind gusts):
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      Why is 3h display not possible on the main page (with wind gusts)?

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      • idefix37I Offline
        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Lure
        last edited by idefix37

        @Lure
        The ECMWF data are provided
        From 0 to 90 hours by 1 hour steps
        From 93 to 144 hours by 3 hours steps
        From 150 to 240 hours by 6 hours steps

        https://confluence.ecmwf.int/plugins/servlet/mobile?contentId=272310483#content/view/272310483

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          Lure @idefix37 | Premium
          last edited by Lure

          @idefix37 I understand that, but what is the data shown in Compare forecasts which is in 3h intervals?

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            tuxcs_ @Lure | Premium
            last edited by

            @Lure hmm I just noticed that. Very strange...

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            • idefix37I Offline
              idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Lure
              last edited by idefix37

              @Lure
              This is very weird ! I can't explain why ECMWF in Compare table shows 3 hours steps up to 10 days instead of 6 hours between 150 to 240 hours.

              5F96726E-2CF5-4AE8-A6CE-E174C8C10553.jpeg

              Btw I never rely on local wind conditions, averaged wind or gusts, beyond 5 days. Otherwise the is a high risk to be disappointed.

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              • LureL Offline
                Lure @idefix37 | Premium
                last edited by Lure

                @idefix37 Yes, I agree that you cannot rely on 10 day forecasts, we only use it to make a decision 7 days to the event to what regatta route we will more likely take. We are more or less just looking for very strong winds/waves and not really depending on details.

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                • idefix37I Offline
                  idefix37 Sailor Moderator
                  last edited by idefix37

                  @Ondřej-Šutera

                  No comment or explanation for the values ​​displayed every 3 hours for the ECMWF model on the Compare table as mentioned by @Lure.
                  Whereas after 150 hours, this model is supposed to only provide data every 6 hours like the point forecast table do.

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                  • SutyS Offline
                    Suty Windy Staff @idefix37
                    last edited by

                    @idefix37 I discussed this with colleagues and extra values in compare forecast table are interpolated.

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                    • idefix37I Offline
                      idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Suty
                      last edited by

                      @Ondřej-Šutera
                      Thank you

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                        Lure @idefix37 | Premium
                        last edited by

                        @idefix37 Thanks for clarification, maybe they should be marked differently in the header to reduce confusion with meteogram (where there is no interpolation)? Or add interpolated values also there to make it consistent?

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