Why same model (ECMWF) differ in other sites/apps
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Well, okay, so we can assume the windy.com forecast should be more accurate.
Would've been great if I could stay at a mountain hut and just make a prospective trail comparing the two forecasts :)
Anyhow.
One more question which is offtopic - as I can see few of you are developers/moderators - do you consider adding a "freezing level" line as in the windy.app interface? That feature I must say is really handy. Thanks.
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Hi @Dimitar-Mihaylov, already available: https://www.windy.com/-Show---add-more-layers/overlays?deg0,48.546,31.399,5
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@Filip_K said in Why same model (ECMWF) differ in other sites/apps:
Hi @Dimitar-Mihaylov, already available: https://www.windy.com/-Show---add-more-layers/overlays?deg0,48.546,31.399,5
Oh, great.
Can I add it into the "forecast window" with the wind/temp/snow/rain/etc or I can see it only on the map when I move it around? Because when I choose one of my saved favourite spots the freezing level is not shown.
Thanks again.
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@Dimitar-Mihaylov
I'm afraid only map and airgram display freezing level.In airgram, freezing level is the white line between blue and green mass. And the left axis is in pressure levels which makes it quite difficult to get actual freezing altitude.
But picker displays such value anywhere:
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Yes, that's what I thought. It's not really useful in that configuration but hopefully it will get added in the forecast grid.
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@Dimitar-Mihaylov
What you call the “forecast grid” is probably the Basic meteogram called Basic in Windy. For the freezing level you just need to switch on Airgram, as @Filip_K said.
I don’t know if a customisable meteogram could be made. Probably not easy. -
@idefix37 said in Why same model (ECMWF) differ in other sites/apps:
@Dimitar-Mihaylov
What you call the “forecast grid” is probably the Basic meteogram called Basic in Windy. For the freezing level you just need to switch on Airgram, as @Filip_K said.
I don’t know if a customisable meteogram could be made. Probably not easy.I checked the Airgram but as mentioned before - the reference axis for the freezing level is air pressure not altitude which is not useful, at least not for me.
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@Dimitar-Mihaylov
Yes, but you must know that the weather model calculations are all based on air pressure levels, not on real elevation.
However it would be useful to display the average elevation corresponding to these pressure levels. As it is displayed just below for clouds but not very detailed:
Or you need to make your own pressure / averaged elevation scale yourself.
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@idefix37 said in Why same model (ECMWF) differ in other sites/apps:
@Dimitar-Mihaylov
Yes, but you must know that the weather model calculations are all based on air pressure levels, not on real elevation.
However it would be useful to display the average elevation corresponding to these pressure levels. As it is displayed just below for clouds but not very detailed:Or you need to make your own pressure / averaged elevation scale yourself.
I understand and know that most of the calculations are based on the air pressure levels but that doesn't change the fact it's not convenient for the normal user.
This is exactly every application's "you had one job" thing - to process the information and present it in a understandable way.
If I wanted to do my own calculations with the raw data then I would not use any app at all.
Anyway - that was just a suggestion for improving the UI.
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@Dimitar-Mihaylov
I do not ask you to do your own calculations with the raw data, just to imagine this
This has been already asked to Windy…
