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    • SutyS
      Suty Administrator @robembury
      last edited by

      @robembury We will change the default start of the animation, so if you hit the play button, observed data will be played. However, there won't be any possibility to completely turn off this forecast.

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      • vortexyaV
        vortexya @Suty | Premium
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        @Suty Thank you, that will certainly help. We have had very severe storms here in NSW Australia the last few days and the existing "slider" has been a total pain.
        Hopefully the algorithm that controls this prediction will improve, is it an output from an LLM ?
        I tried it this afternoon in the midst of a severe thunderstorm outbreak and it seems to be better than it was several days back. Also the juddering of the live (current ) radar had improved, so I live in hope :)

        Station FW8109 (Anna Bay NSW)
        Weatherflow Tempest

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        • DavidGAD
          DavidGA | Premium
          last edited by

          This is still happening. The regular past radar (not the future forecast) is wobbling and sliding around the map.

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          • Sinewave1S
            Sinewave1 @DavidGA | Premium
            last edited by

            @DavidGA

            Yup, not a fan. Don't like how it works, don't like what it does.

            The movement predictions can also be wrong by up to 45 deg for storms and squalls.

            Plus, it degrades the actual radar animation. Not worth having.

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            • Sinewave1S
              Sinewave1 | Premium
              last edited by Sinewave1

              Also: Currently, I have low-level NE onshore showers (that are developing into rain-bands), plus a monsoonal flow around a Low, bringing mid-level showers down from the NNW, over the top of them.

              They cross each other at about 90 degrees, and at a similar movement speed.

              So the prediction algorithm just spits the difference between them, and predicts they'll all move SSW!

              No, none of these showers move SSW! They of course continue on their original headings. So this prediction is quite useless to me, it just averages the NET movement vector, rather than predicting movement and speeds of individual features, based on past movement and speed.

              Plus it plays that 'prediction' first, instead of the logged data animation, which is actually predicatively very useful.

              It's not a good feature.

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              • SutyS
                Suty Administrator
                last edited by

                @DavidGA We are already preparing the solution for this issue, I hope it will be out soon.

                @Sinewave1 We are still getting the feedback and we will try to do our best to optimize the behavior.

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                • Sinewave1S
                  Sinewave1 @Suty | Premium
                  last edited by

                  @Suty

                  Thanks, an example of what's occurring tonight.

                  Source: Windy.com
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                  • SutyS
                    Suty Administrator @Sinewave1
                    last edited by

                    @Sinewave1 We already released updated version, however, please let us know if you see anything strange.

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                    • Sinewave1S
                      Sinewave1 @Suty | Premium
                      last edited by

                      @Suty

                      Yes, thank you, the animation is working properly again without jerking around, and is playing the data animation first once more. Which is fine and useful once again.

                      Though, the movement projection remains the same.

                      That's ok, I won't use the future movement option until a better movement prediction algorithm is developed (if possible).

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                      • Sinewave1S
                        Sinewave1 @Suty | Premium
                        last edited by

                        @Suty

                        Is it also possible to remove the forward movement prediction from radar data animations?

                        It makes a bit of a mess of them at present.

                        Source: Windy.com
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                        • idefix37I
                          idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Sinewave1
                          last edited by idefix37

                          @Sinewave1

                          Before the next release, just click on the white part of the timeline. Did you look at the @Suty’s post here above ?

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                          • Valencia_WXV
                            Valencia_WX @idefix37 | Premium
                            last edited by

                            @idefix37 I think the same with @Sinewave1 . In the tab "Create Animation" there isn't an option to record the future radar or not. Could we have a button to only record the past radar or record past+future radar?

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                            • SutyS
                              Suty Administrator @Valencia_WX
                              last edited by

                              @Valencia_WX According to recording feature, we decided to remove it completely with next update to v.42. So no changes will be done now. I am sorry about this.

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                              • Valencia_WXV
                                Valencia_WX @Suty | Premium
                                last edited by

                                @Suty This is sad. We use this animation to share it on TW and help people.

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                                • Sinewave1S
                                  Sinewave1 @Suty | Premium
                                  last edited by Sinewave1

                                  @Suty

                                  Am I mistaken, or is the prediction algorithm working better in the past few hours?

                                  It seems to be doing a much better job of predicting individual rain feature vectors.

                                  Before it was sending all the features in the same direction, but in this animation sequence I just made it is projecting all the rain features moving in different directions, consistent with their prior logged movement and speed vector.

                                  If so, that's working properly (or at least it's a lot better).

                                  Source: Windy.com
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                                  • Sinewave1S
                                    Sinewave1 @Suty | Premium
                                    last edited by Sinewave1

                                    @Suty

                                    I don't mind it staying in the radar animation if it works properly, and does not mess up the end of the animation.

                                    The prediction function appears to be working much better today, compared to how it has been working prior.

                                    Others can test to confirm.

                                    Note that the flickering signal at the bottom of this animation is the Longreach radar operating intermittently.

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                                      MiltonFreedMan @Suty
                                      last edited by MiltonFreedMan

                                      @Suty why are you forcing it on us? Many of us don't want it
                                      I don't want to have to "rewind" the loop manually and I don't want future cast.

                                      If it stays I'll be forced to find an alternative as that will 100% block my use of this app.

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                                      • WheatsW
                                        Wheats Meteorologist @MiltonFreedMan
                                        last edited by

                                        @MiltonFreedMan
                                        https://community.windy.com/post/179128

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                                        • Mathieu OlignyM
                                          Mathieu Oligny @MiltonFreedMan
                                          last edited by

                                          @MiltonFreedMan said in The radar wobbles:

                                          @Suty why are you forcing it on us? Many of us don't want it
                                          I don't want to have to "rewind" the loop manually and I don't want future cast.

                                          If it stays I'll be forced to find an alternative as that will 100% block my use of this app.

                                          x2 agreed

                                          Mathieu Oligny

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                                          • CaefixC
                                            Caefix @Suty | Premium
                                            last edited by Caefix

                                            @Suty I´m not aware of any alternative, that´s close to this function. Probably nothing can be done for the "sharing the wrong window" - issue. The only obstacle I find nasty, is the 15Mb size limit for uploads (maybe a buffer´s size definement?) and a missing fps choice in the start-screen.
                                            Anyway, it´s far better way to somewhere than no way to anywhere. Users don´t need to be forced not to use it.

                                            The Indian radar remains obscure, confirmed by other source.

                                            https://community.windy.com/topic/8191/your-animations/35130

                                            India-radarZE.png

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