Plugins not compatible
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@gwicke This should hopefuly be fixed in 3.0.3 - I guess it needs to be stamped by the windy team before it's available.
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@vicb, thanks a lot!
@Suty, what is your take on the plugin infrastructure questions? Are there plans to make plugins more discoverable / usable for mobile users? Will there be a way for users to follow a plugin-referencing link like https://www.windy.com/plugin/sdg/48.612/-122.425?clouds,48.612,-122.425,10, and get some UI / workflow that lets them install the plugin & see the linked view? This would make it a lot easier to help other users get started with analyzing conditions for a particular flying site, for example.
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@gwicke At this moment, we make a huge step with plugins, however, at this moment, there is no specific plan to implement them into the mobile app. I can discuss it with colleagues on the meeting next week, however, I can't promise anything.
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@Suty I've published the plugin: https://github.com/vrana/windy-plugin-pg-mapa/actions/runs/8658990874
How long does it take to appear in Windy?
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@jakubvrana Thank you for an update. I will forward it to colleagues for approval.
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@Suty Does every new version need to be approved?
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@jakubvrana Yes, we want to approve it after checking that, if there are any security issues. We want to be safe about this.
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@Suty Is this at least automatic when I publish a new version? Or do I need to always notify you?
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@jakubvrana At this moment, it is better to let us know, but we will optimize it and if there is any change I will keep you posted.
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@Suty The Flight Planner plugin has been very useful. I would like to see it compatible with this new version.
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@Suty to clarify, I was thinking primarily about making plugins more discoverable / usable on the mobile website. The app would be nice too, but mobile web would be enough for my purposes.
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@vicb, opening https://www.windy.com/plugin/sdg/49.263/-121.882?namConus,clouds,2024041221,49.263,-121.882,12 still hangs for me with 3.0.3 installed.
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@gwicke Are you sure it hangs ?
I noticed another issue which is that the map does not center on the location and release 3.0.4 to fix that earlier today (it's pending validation from the windy team).
But it should still work with 3.0.3 even if the map is not centered on 49/-122. The sounding should still load and if you drag the map around that position, you should see the pulsating icon.
Do you confirm?
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@vicb said in Plugins not compatible:
@BallPic-0 The trajectory plugin is being ported by @rittels
traj should be up and running soon.
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@gwicke Are you sure it hangs ?
@vicb, in both Firefox and Chromium I am getting the "this page is slowing down your browser..." dialog after a while, and the plugin does not load as expected. Here is a profile captured in Firefox:
Interestingly, the profile still seems to be referencing 3.0.2. The plugin UI lists the version as 3.0.3. @Suty, what is the expected upgrade behavior for plugins? There is no explicit "upgrade" button in the plugin listing. Are users expected to pick up the latest version of a plugin automatically?
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@vicb, after manually deleting all windy site data in my browser, logging in again, and finally reinstalling the plugin to make sure it does pick up the latest version, I can confirm that https://www.windy.com/plugin/sdg/49.263/-121.882?namConus,clouds,49.263,-121.882,10 loads without a hang. Thank you for fixing this!
Hopefully the plugin upgrade & installation workflow issues can be fixed on the windy side. /cc @Suty
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@jakubvrana New PG mapa plugin is not finished yet
There is no content im embedded DIV and after closing the plugin the items remain in the map
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Hi @Suty
The instability created by version changes is all the more regrettable given that Windy and its plugins are a remarkable and unique solution on the market.
I wanted to know how the adoption of the new version is being managed with plugin developers. How much time do they have before the switchover to the new version to update their plug-ins? Would it be possible to trigger the switchover when the most popular plug-ins are available? If not, this will generate a great deal of frustration among end-users, and can sometimes have unfortunate consequences (as for me, I find myself blocked in the long-term planning of my VFR flights).
Or would it be possible for the web version to temporarily support both the old and the new version as a Beta, so that at least when a plug-in is needed, you can go back to the old version?
Regards
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@François-DUMONT I'd like to give some perspective as a plugin developer (the sounding plugin).
Most of the plugins (if not all) are developed by volunteers that get no money in return. I never heard someone complaining about that but in the long run nobody really wants to work for free. It is time consuming to maintain software. I have been maintaining the plugin sounding for ~6 years and I started to really question if I wanted to continue or not.
What I did is to add a "buy me a coffee" page to the plugin for users to be able to sponsor the development. I got a very positive response and it gave me the motivation to keep maintaining the plugin. More than the money I was really please by the great feedback I got.
Hopefully we can figure out a solution for the plugin developers to monetize their plugin. The windy team is open about that and super helpful.
Now about the timeline: the changes were announced in early 2024 which is plenty of time to port the plugin and the team was again super helpful on the chat.
The new plugin architecture is much better than the previous one, kudos to the team for the improvement.
As a maintainer of several software project I can assure thaw we usually hear more complaints than praises and it would be great that people also think about thanking the maintainers - you did just that at the beginning of your message and it's great.
I know some people are hard at work to convert the remaining plugins, please give them a little bit of time.
Thanks
