New UI is a really bad idea
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One needs to understand the IQ of the client base.
The more intelligent users, the more use desktop. Lowest IQ users are nearly 100% mobile. I run one site which is all private pilots and thus IQ significantly above average (cannot get a PPL if you are stupid) and from analytics and server data we have 50% mobile users. So both have to be catered for.
Good desktop functionality also attracts more intelligent users.
Windy is a lot more difficult to use now. I used to have
medium cloud
low cloud
cloudbase
cloud tops
rain and thunder
windall on one menu. Not I can't get rain & thunder at all, to stick.
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@peterh337
Thank you for those using the mobile app ! Your reasoning is pretty stupid. I personally use mainly the mobile app and the website on iPad. And some time my desktop. I’m sure that many pilots do the same. -
@peterh337
WTF are you talking about?! You just proved yourself, that you have a very low IQ. -
A desktop presentation should allow a relatively flat and rich UI, not multiple levels of config as one has to do on a mobile device.
It does depend on the "expert/novice" level of the users, obviously, and the tendency is to go for the latter. But I would suggest most Windy users are definitely in the former camp, using Windy on desktops at home or office.
Windy will have the audience data; whether they will confirm or not might be interesting. -
@peterh337 beware the word IQ is a dangerous word to use these days( allthough i understand your point of direction), lets call ourselves professionaires/ hobbisionaires, or us older men, or older women, or us devoted hobbymeteorologists, that has become darn too old and nearsighted to even look at the small symbols on a smartphone deeding luck from heavens above in hope to push the right letter on the SP keyboard. i am 3.5+ glassed, and hate to use glasses, therefore using a 70'' tv screen to be able to zoom even further if needed, so you can easily understand that i avoid the SP as much as i can, and i might sound like a professor with an iq just above average ( depends on what test is used to decide intelligence) ,abstractions is bad, everything else that needs a lot of pugging im all in for, try me on geography and youll see. and im the only one i guess that spent 180 days in front of the pcscreen when having weatherlink connected to my davis weather wizard 3( in the summer of -99)
but i am that intelligent, as you peterh337, to cry out loud that the ''punch and judy'' deeds done by the establishment of crayon colourized weather intelligence that we love/low so much , are way far gone for us desktop(alt tv-screen-)users, go back to the old marvelous elegance of pictograms on a line, or at least give us the choice, or at least give the premiumholders (which im not) the opportunity to choose. its no a beg for life, though it feels like it.its almost criminal, and disturbs the equations of an old grump like me.
best regards
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The desktop presentation moves the map, centering the section when menu opened/closed , Android does not. My thumb for static version.
But I like the centering of the chosen webcam. Eg. through the development of OTIS I posted warnings (c&p from NWS) on all chats I found around Acapulco in Youtube. Most cams were offline soon after. So a mark of their cams was usefull. -
There's always complaints about new UI everywhere throughout all websites, programs, and applications. The truth is the new UI works just fine, is intelligent, and is but a minor inconvienence to get used to.
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@mark-ingalls Why bother getting used to the 'new', when the 'old' was superior? Reminds me of Firefox when they did an 'upgrade' which like this is actually a downgrade. I had to find a new browser, which I did. FF is still on my devices, but hardly ever gets used. I haven't looked yet, has anybody found a replacement Windy?
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Have been a Windy user for a long, long time, and as of next week my subscription runs out (not to be renewed). I spent my $'s on MeteoBlue. Not as smooth as the previous version of Windy but there are many other nice model/display features available for subscribers. It costs a bit more than Windy but I am happy to pay and try for now in the hope that maybe Windy will sort this mess of a UI out in the not-too-distant future (or maybe they'll take a few more bruises for now and stick to their vision with this new UI).
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Isn't Meteoblue just GFS? The big plus of Windy is ECMWF and the other models.
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Windy is just about useless for what I got subscribed and that is to plan and prepare my flights swiftly. Need the previous version back. Used to recommend it to other pilots, but that ends, if things don't change.
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@stitch said in New UI is a really bad idea:
Have been a Windy user for a long, long time, and as of next week my subscription runs out (not to be renewed). I spent my $'s on MeteoBlue. Not as smooth as the previous version of Windy but there are many other nice model/display features available for subscribers. It costs a bit more than Windy but I am happy to pay and try for now in the hope that maybe Windy will sort this mess of a UI out in the not-too-distant future (or maybe they'll take a few more bruises for now and stick to their vision with this new UI).
Thanks for the tip on MeteoBlue. It is much better for my use case than the new broken windy UI.
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@peterh337 there is EC model data within the MeteoBlue model list (not as many fields compared to Windy) but it also has ICON (worthy challenger) along with others. For my area of interest, the Australian region...this is available
My preference is Windy over MeteoBlue whilst working, however, I can't efficiently navigate around the current Windy UI. MeteoBlue offers an alternate site that has added features that I view as beneficial for the cost.
I have also wondered about the EC model's forecast resolution available to Windy for use within a public site. I know of another site that provides non-restricted access to EC data but at a resolution of 25km. The good stuff at 9km I would believe is available to paying customers (and is not cheap). I haven't asked but is Windy using 25km or 9km EC data?
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@stitch
It is the 9 km resolution version. Just click on the circled i (information) if you have never done so before. -
How about a screensaver version?
Bubbles could be fish-shaped, swimming around, follow particle animation or circle around isolines...
A game for kids as an approach to meteorology.... -
@peterh337 No, mteoblue does have ECMWF and much more global models. And not to mention, they also have the NEMS models...
