New UI is a really bad idea
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I documented it with screenshots here
https://www.euroga.org/forums/hangar-talk/3281-windy-com-an-amazing-wind-and-weather-visualisation-site/post/365859#365859On a PC or laptop, you have a big screen so there is no need to go down multiple levels to show something like cloud base!
The old UI was fine.
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@peterh337 I absolutely do not like the new UI
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@peterh337 You can still pin your favorite layers to your homepage, when you hover over the layer in the menu. Then the layer is available on your homepage.
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@Suty Yes someone pointed that out to me. But it is an unnecessary extra level. On a PC, you have plenty of screen area to see the RH menu.
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@peterh337 A switch to "classic UI" or icons was fine. (Expert-mode?) Old code was fine, no need to delete.
Or open altitude slider without all the menu?
Or click on icon to go, wait on icon to open submenu?
In the quickmenu is the switch off to on , could also be a on to off for clean map? -
@Suty For further confusion the new pin is added at the top, how possible was to drag & drop?
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@Caefix How do you mean this exactly? Do you want to drag and drop layers to make your own order?
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@Suty Satellite & radar would disappear soon. The possibilitity to sort the pinned layers was nice.
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@peterh337 Totally hate new Windy upgrade too.
They have made changes to PC version, as if they had their mind that PC monitors are like cellphones.
They degraded the easiness of things and they made it worse!Too bad. Windy is completely destroyed for me now :(
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Yes, update is ridiculous…will cancel my subscription…
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@Suty Btw. I switched sat & radar off & on, now they stay stable on the top.
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@Georgemj23 Sadly it's a new trend in UX design. I see it being implemented on many websites lately (Reddit is a great example). Essentially, to cut costs and development time, it is becoming common to cut out the desktop design entirely and just adapt the mobile version no matter what device you're on. As a result, desktop is losing a lot of its functionality.
I'm seeing more and more disregard for screen real estate, which is ironic given the fundamentals of mobile design.
Flow for desktop users appears to be disregarded for the most part as well.
I enjoy my phone, but it is not my preference for navigating detailed information on the internet. It really shouldn't be anyone's preference, given the utility of desktop vs phone through physical interface alone.
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One needs to understand the IQ of the client base.
The more intelligent users, the more use desktop. Lowest IQ users are nearly 100% mobile. I run one site which is all private pilots and thus IQ significantly above average (cannot get a PPL if you are stupid) and from analytics and server data we have 50% mobile users. So both have to be catered for.
Good desktop functionality also attracts more intelligent users.
Windy is a lot more difficult to use now. I used to have
medium cloud
low cloud
cloudbase
cloud tops
rain and thunder
windall on one menu. Not I can't get rain & thunder at all, to stick.
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@peterh337
Thank you for those using the mobile app ! Your reasoning is pretty stupid. I personally use mainly the mobile app and the website on iPad. And some time my desktop. I’m sure that many pilots do the same. -
@peterh337
WTF are you talking about?! You just proved yourself, that you have a very low IQ. -
A desktop presentation should allow a relatively flat and rich UI, not multiple levels of config as one has to do on a mobile device.
It does depend on the "expert/novice" level of the users, obviously, and the tendency is to go for the latter. But I would suggest most Windy users are definitely in the former camp, using Windy on desktops at home or office.
Windy will have the audience data; whether they will confirm or not might be interesting. -
@peterh337 beware the word IQ is a dangerous word to use these days( allthough i understand your point of direction), lets call ourselves professionaires/ hobbisionaires, or us older men, or older women, or us devoted hobbymeteorologists, that has become darn too old and nearsighted to even look at the small symbols on a smartphone deeding luck from heavens above in hope to push the right letter on the SP keyboard. i am 3.5+ glassed, and hate to use glasses, therefore using a 70'' tv screen to be able to zoom even further if needed, so you can easily understand that i avoid the SP as much as i can, and i might sound like a professor with an iq just above average ( depends on what test is used to decide intelligence) ,abstractions is bad, everything else that needs a lot of pugging im all in for, try me on geography and youll see. and im the only one i guess that spent 180 days in front of the pcscreen when having weatherlink connected to my davis weather wizard 3( in the summer of -99)
but i am that intelligent, as you peterh337, to cry out loud that the ''punch and judy'' deeds done by the establishment of crayon colourized weather intelligence that we love/low so much , are way far gone for us desktop(alt tv-screen-)users, go back to the old marvelous elegance of pictograms on a line, or at least give us the choice, or at least give the premiumholders (which im not) the opportunity to choose. its no a beg for life, though it feels like it.its almost criminal, and disturbs the equations of an old grump like me.
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The desktop presentation moves the map, centering the section when menu opened/closed , Android does not. My thumb for static version.
But I like the centering of the chosen webcam. Eg. through the development of OTIS I posted warnings (c&p from NWS) on all chats I found around Acapulco in Youtube. Most cams were offline soon after. So a mark of their cams was usefull. -
There's always complaints about new UI everywhere throughout all websites, programs, and applications. The truth is the new UI works just fine, is intelligent, and is but a minor inconvienence to get used to.
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@mark-ingalls Why bother getting used to the 'new', when the 'old' was superior? Reminds me of Firefox when they did an 'upgrade' which like this is actually a downgrade. I had to find a new browser, which I did. FF is still on my devices, but hardly ever gets used. I haven't looked yet, has anybody found a replacement Windy?
