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      mguw
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      would be awesome as here in France Arome is the most accurate model!

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      • vicbV
        vicb Paraglider @Samygallego | Premium
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        Thanks for your post @Samygallego

        I have had the same feedback from many paraglider pilots: AROME would be awesome.

        PG pilots have little interest in surface conditions, what they are looking at to check the conditions is the sounding forecast - that's why many users complained about the v42 update when the plugin sounding stop working for a few days before I had time to update the plugin to the new API.

        AROME covers the Alps where thousands of people are flying on good day. Here in France meteo-parapente.com is popuplar because it uses the AROME model but the UI is way less friendly than windy.

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        Please switch to AROME 2.5 🙏.

        Windy is the best ❤️

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        • Emmanuel ChabaniE
          Emmanuel Chabani Paraglider
          last edited by

          Please allow to have AROME altitude layers, would be very helpful for us French paragliding pilots!

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            FlamingFlowair
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            I'm also interested, arome is THE model for France.

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            • Jochen 78abdaf7-c21e-4291-ae3a-786542d9ab77J
              Jochen 78abdaf7-c21e-4291-ae3a-786542d9ab77
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              This is much needed Windy team, it'll boost your app adoption in the vol libre communities even further, as we currently have to use many different sources to derive a meaningful forecast. I have been premium subscriber for years to support the team. Thank you in advance!

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                jonjonexplorer | Premium
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                Hi, it would be amazing to be able to use Arome 2.5 for altitude layers. I hope it is possible one day!

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                • Guillaume BelletG
                  Guillaume Bellet | Premium
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                  Merci pour votre travail, avoir arôme sur le.best sounding serait un vrai plus pour affiner nos prévisions aerologiques.
                  Merci encore

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                  • gillessilbG
                    gillessilb
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                    Same thing here. Arome altitude layers would be great !

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                    • Alexandre d20fba0e-0549-410f-9123-16f1f855f5ccA
                      Alexandre d20fba0e-0549-410f-9123-16f1f855f5cc
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                      Windy is such a great tool and arome layers is a must. Don't understand why it is not already there!

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                      • Robby theeyeinthecloudR
                        Robby theeyeinthecloud
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                        Oh yes. That would be so gooooood! As a matter of fact I rarely use arome unfortunately because of this limitations: altitude and also forecasts for only 24 hours. I would go get it on meteoblue for example wich is too bad since we can have it all on windy.

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                        • Laurent JolyL
                          Laurent Joly
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                          Please please ! replace Arome1.3 by Arome2.5 (with Altitude) ! 2.5km is already a very nice resolution and, as Samy stated, if the 2.5 output comes from the 1.3 forecast, there is no point in keeping the full resolution at surface and depriving Windy aficionados from the highly reliable Arome forecast above surface ! There's definitely a demand from the community ! Many thanks to the Windy developers!

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                            JohnMayan | Premium
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                            Hello,
                            Yes please it would be incredible to have altitude layers with Arôme 2,5 instead of 1,3 surface. For the time being, we only can predict our trajectory with the altitude layers of ECMWF, which is not ideal at Day-1 or early morning of the D-Day...
                            Thanks for Windy anyway !

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                              Paytagnol
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                              Ok I vote for

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                              • mszpirglasM
                                mszpirglas @ukenfly | Premium
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                                @ukenfly i vote for it too ! Excellent idea

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                                • Silversurfer75S
                                  Silversurfer75 @vicb
                                  last edited by

                                  @vicb oui, mais les conditions de surface sont aussi à prendre en compte (petit déco en plaine à basse altitude,on vol pas tous à 3000...😅),il nous faut idéalement le vent au sol et le vent en altitude (meteociel,par ex...)

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                                  • vicbV
                                    vicb Paraglider @Silversurfer75 | Premium
                                    last edited by vicb

                                    @Silversurfer75 je ne pense pas qu'une grille a 2.5km soit gênante en plaine?
                                    Comme le dit @Samygallego les prévisions sont exactement les mêmes. La seule différence est la résolution de la grille.
                                    Il me semble donc que arome2.5 serait mieux pour tout le monde?
                                    Samy (qui est ingénieur prévisionniste chez MF) pourra sûrement nous éclairer un peu plus.

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                                    • Silversurfer75S
                                      Silversurfer75
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                                      Vivement les couches d'altitude avec Arome..., c'est extrêmement important pour les parapentistes,merci pour votre aide !😜

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                                        Samygallego @Silversurfer75
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                                        @Silversurfer75 Surface layer is also available in AROME2.5, see documentation here :
                                        https://donneespubliques.meteofrance.fr/?fond=produit&id_produit=131&id_rubrique=51

                                        In particular the details for packages here :
                                        https://donneespubliques.meteofrance.fr/client/document/descriptiontechnique_paquetsarome_donneespubliques_v2_20240402_367.pdf


                                        (En français : les champs de surface sont aussi présents dans AROME2.5, voir la doc ici :
                                        https://donneespubliques.meteofrance.fr/?fond=produit&id_produit=131&id_rubrique=51

                                        En particulier le détail des paquets ici :

                                        https://donneespubliques.meteofrance.fr/client/document/descriptiontechnique_paquetsarome_donneespubliques_v2_20240402_367.pdf
                                        )

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                                        • serge renierS
                                          serge renier
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                                          I need to know altitude wind strength and direction too

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                                            avoldaw @Samygallego | Premium
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                                            @Samygallego said in AROME altitude layers : a survey:

                                            Hello the Windy team (and windy community),

                                            first, congratulation and thank you for your work, very appreciated ! This post is not just another post asking for AROME altitude layers, it has been asked many times, see for example the following links for the most recent ones:
                                            https://community.windy.com/topic/27058/arome-model-wind-informations-in-altitude
                                            https://community.windy.com/topic/28241/altitude-winds-with-arome-model-france
                                            https://community.windy.com/topic/32698/arome-suggestion-of-new-layers

                                            The answer from the team is always the same : AROME1.3 is only available at surface, for the altitude Meteo-France gives only AROME2.5.
                                            I would like to be sure that the team and everybody understand AROME1.3 and AROME2.5 are the SAME model (with a grid of 1.3km for calculation), only the output resolution is lowered (but still ok !), probably to save space and reduce data to be downloaded. I think not many people care of having so much precise resolution of 1.3km for visualization, but I am sure french paragliders and gliders pilots (and some of the neighbors, as spanish paragliders) would love to see altitude ! Especially in the Pyrenees where ICON D2 is not available, but also in the Alps for comparison with ICON D2.

                                            I have contacted the windy team and they say it is possible to replace AROME1.3 (at surface) by AROME2.5 (with Altitude) but they need to see there is a demand from the community.

                                            I have also contacted Victor, creator of the excellent plugin "better sounding" and he would happily add the AROME model to the list if windy team is adding altitude.

                                            So if you want this change, please make some noise (replying or liking this message) !

                                            Many thanks.

                                            Great, let's have ARÔME 2.5

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