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    • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
      Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @joalb
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      @joalb
      Surface wind refers to 10m above model's surface.
      Surface temperature refers to 2m.

      For ECMWF datasets, see https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/datasets/set-i
      For ICON, see chapter 6 (Global output fields) in
      "Database Reference Manual for ICON"
      https://www.dwd.de/SharedDocs/downloads/DE/modelldokumentationen/nwv/icon/icon_dbbeschr_aktuell.html

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        Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @Gkikas LGPZ
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        .... or scroll on top of this page

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        • J Offline
          jwh @ivo
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          @ivo From Leilani Estates Big Island Hawaii: what is the source of SO2 data? Satellite only? Any way to include data from ground monitors such as: http://weather.hawaii.edu/vmap/hysplit/ ?

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          • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @jwh
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            @jwh
            For the source of SO2 data ....click ...
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            • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
              Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @jwh
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              @jwh
              https://community.windy.com/topic/5982/so2-actual-time-or-predicted

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              • IgorXXXmirrorI Offline
                IgorXXXmirror
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                What does it mean in lightning l / km ^ 2?

                IXMfoxPrower^_^;;

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                • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                  Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @IgorXXXmirror
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                  @igorxxxmirror
                  lightnings per square kilometer.

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                    TomSlavkovsky API developers | Premium
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                    @Gkikas-LGPZ @IgorXXXmirror There is a mistake pointed out by ECMWF - it should be flash/km2/day.

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                      idefix37 Sailor Moderator @TomSlavkovsky
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                      @tomslavkovsky
                      If the unit is flash/km2/day, why does the map changes every 3 hours? Is it a sliding average over 24 hours? Looking to the way how thunderstorms move on the map every 3 hours, it seems surprising

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                      • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                        Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @idefix37
                        last edited by Gkikas LGPZ

                        @idefix37
                        ECMWF definitions:
                        https://software.ecmwf.int/wiki/display/FCST/45r1+new+parameters%3A+lightning+flash+density

                        I think windy uses "Averaged total lightning flash density in the last 3 hours (litota3)"
                        with unit conversions.

                        P.S. as the model's grid is 9x9 km, I propose to keep the original ECMWF density
                        (units of flashes per 100 sq. km per hour).
                        Windy converted values down to 1 sq. km,
                        but this is a "very small" area for lightning forecast
                        and maybe it is prone to larger errors.

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                          idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ
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                          @gkikas-lgpz
                          Thanks for this information. However, I still can’t understand how the thunderstorm maps can change every 3 hours step if the parameter used is « per day » (which is the case of the 4 parameters described in the ECMWF document). These parameters are probably useful for statistical comparisons, but not for forecast.
                          And it’s what is explained in this document :

                          0_1530607573507_57905F25-5384-441D-A09E-CB90F43D6D74.jpeg

                          So the ECMWF provide probably data to Windy in [ flashes / 100km2 / hour].... to be confirmed

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                          • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @idefix37
                            last edited by Gkikas LGPZ

                            @idefix37
                            I don't know how windy computes the lightnings parameters provided on the picker.
                            Maybe is "flashes / 100km2 / hour", multiplied by 100 (to provide flashes per sq. km),
                            multiplied by 3 (to provide flashes in 3 hr timesteps).
                            Windy's developers know!

                            I have also to mention that flashes per sq. km per day, is a UNIT, not a parameter.
                            Think about "rain rate" (or intensity):
                            in a stormy day we may have (for a small time period) a "rain rate" of 500 mm/hr
                            but the total rainfall may be only 50 mm /24 hrs.

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                              idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ
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                              @gkikas-lgpz
                              I understand perfectly what does mean a rate of rain, or flashes density, per hour, or per day, or per 3 hours per day...
                              What bother me is the discrepancy between map displays and units supposed to be used.
                              In the screenshots below the weather picker (for the same place) shows:
                              At 17h, 0.04 l/km2
                              At 20h, 2.22 l/km2
                              At 23h, 0 l/km2

                              0_1530721438639_C6BDB437-8D54-4117-B23E-820862FC5B14.jpeg

                              Showing such a variation, I can’t imagine that these values are expressed per day.

                              And as you said, Windy’s Developers must know which units are really used.

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                              • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                                Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @idefix37
                                last edited by

                                @idefix37
                                This is a new product and we don't know much about it.
                                Personaly, I use it as an "light-moderate-heavy" indication
                                rather than arithmetic values.

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                                • katesiscoK Offline
                                  katesisco @Gkikas LGPZ
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                                  @gkikas-lgpz
                                  I have trouble using Windy.com
                                  I was able to just click on carbon monoxide and see but that ceases as the choice for CO is no longer there. What happened or what am i doing wrong?
                                  katesisco@yahoo.com

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                                  • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                                    Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @katesisco
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                                    @katesisco
                                    Press "more layers"
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                                    and then activate "CO concentration".
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                                      Meridies @Eand
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                                      @eand said in Description of weather overlays:

                                      @ivo

                                      Could you explain difference between:

                                      • wawes
                                      • swell 1
                                      • swell 2
                                      • swell 3
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                                        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Meridies
                                        last edited by idefix37

                                        @meridies
                                        @Eand

                                        As you probably know the shape of waves, in a given place, is a mix of different kind of waves:

                                        • The windsea (also called wind waves) is produced by the local wind.

                                        • The main swell is produced by a strong wind far away.

                                        • Secondary swells are produced also by winds far away but in other places.

                                        All of them have different heights, come from different directions and show different periodes (which is the time between 2 wave crests)
                                        Swell 1 is the main swell, swell 2 and 3 are secondary swells (the swell classification 1, 2, 3 depends on their respective heights)
                                        In this example below, Wind gives the direction of windsea. Swell 1 has a height of 0.6m and a period of 9 seconds.

                                        0_1532433836586_C4D96B18-4CD9-49E4-8BCE-75D80F835ACE.jpeg

                                        The best surf conditions correspond to a strong swell with weak windsea and secondary swells.

                                        A cross sea thrown up by a strong wind and a strong swell whose directions make an angle close to 90º gives hard conditions for navigation.

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                                        • W Offline
                                          Windysky
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                                          Also it would be appropriate to post a legend up on the main page about what each of the layer icons represent. In this list of descriptions there are no corresponding icons. The names of the layers did not appear in the version of Firefox I was using.

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                                          • MarienkaM Offline
                                            Marienka @Gkikas LGPZ
                                            last edited by Marienka

                                            @gkikas-lgpz I am just working on it. Coming soon both in this post and on windy.com >> "about these data" section ("clock" icon).

                                            Best wishes
                                            ~ Marie

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