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      AlleWetter | Premium
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      Could you please add in the hourly forecast the number of minutes with sunshine?
      Thanks!
      Wolfgang

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        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @AlleWetter
        last edited by idefix37

        @AlleWetter
        Do you mean the daylight duration between sunrise and sunset ?
        You get these hours in the point forecast table.

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        Or do you want to know the duration of sunshine by taking into account the cloud cover. In this case it’s really tricky when you have 10%, 20%, 30%…. 80%, 90% cloudiness, how do you calculate the sunshine duration ?

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          enterfornone @idefix37
          last edited by enterfornone

          @idefix37
          You literally wrote it :)
          Sunshine with cloud coverage of 90% is… surprise, surprise… 10%.
          And so on.

          This is a very useful tool in the forecast and a great for short glances:
          Here is a great implementation in Weather Pro:
          IMG_1171.jpeg

          By the way - this, real feel, and the precipitation probability - things that Windy stubbornly preaches that we “don’t need”, keep WeatherPro as my go-to weather app.
          I’m going to continue its subscription and discontinue Windy once it expires, as Windy is unwilling to improve UX and misses key usability (above).

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            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @enterfornone
            last edited by idefix37

            @enterfornone
            For me what you show is not the duration of sunshine but partly the sunlight intensity.

            "Bright" sunshine hours represent the total hours when the sunlight is stronger than a specified threshold, as opposed to just "visible" hours
            in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_duration?oldid=568479788.

            In meteorology it is considered sunny when objects, buildings, bodies, etc. clearly cast shadows.

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              enterfornone @idefix37
              last edited by enterfornone

              @idefix37 You know - that’s the problem with Windy. And the fact that it misses the key measurements like real feel, precipitation probability and sunshine duration.
              Someone from the team always comes and explains “how’s in meteorology”!

              I had a long discussion here about “real feel” and wet-bulb temp, in which I was explained that I don’t understand meteorology and windy is so precise in providing not (the “unscientific”) real feel, which was not “meteorological” enough, but just wet-bulb - what turned out to be in the end a useless measure for 99.9999% of the users and occasions.

              Frankly, I couldn’t care less what’s “in meteorology”. I’m not a meteorologist. I don’t want raw data to spend 15 minutes with, creating my own forecast. I want a single glance to show me before a run at 7am are the 4 degrees outside going to feel bloody freezing for me or pleasant. I risk my health if I get this wrong!
              Sunshine duration, real feel and precipitation probability give me that in other apps. Windy, stubbornly - refuses to do that simple thing.

              Even the data that it has, it provides it with a horrible UX - always changing the model to an incorrect one (the bloody ECMWF), refusing to provide tables and graphs, only maps, impossible to see several parameters together.
              In the end it provides a wealth of data with very little practical use - one because of the bad UX, and second - refusing to calculate parameters for the common folk - not the professional meteorologist.

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                Ti Mars @enterfornone
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                @enterfornone I completely agree. If I long to plan my trips as a camper, hiker or with photosensitive (a disease for people with lupus or sjögren) you want and demand the hours of sun light per day. My reason not to take the paid version. Maybe they are listening at some point!

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