Switching between weather models now takes 3 clicks
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@Ftjwinfs
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I disliked the popup - it blocked the panel, blocked some of the layer I was looking at, and I had to click it closed...so I like the fact that they made this change so quickly.
I like your note about the empty space on the right side of the main footer - is it possible to tuck all the models there somehow? Just have them there, automatically display or not depending on your location on the map. That way no one has to click anything expect the model they want to look at. I'm curious what the limitation is around implementing that - seems like the ideal solution.
If they can't do that, maybe they can decrease the padding a bit around the new bar - there is definitely some empty space there - maybe Windy can tidy that up a bit? Save some space?I do agree with the timing - maybe increase the timer too. I like that it closes automatically - so I don't have to click again....but I don't like that it closes so quickly.
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You asked "is it possible to tuck all the models there somehow?"
Of course that is possible ;)
See below a screenshot from July this year ;)
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@Ftjwinfs This is not a proper example, since when you check the central Europe, we offer much more models there. The eastern part of Austria offers 9 models now.
Also, we wanted to offer this popup menu with upcoming intentions, that can be understood in the future.
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@Suty said in Switching between weather models now takes 3 clicks:
@Ftjwinfs This is not a proper example, since when you check the central Europe, we offer much more models there. The eastern part of Austria offers 9 models now.
Ok, that's true.
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Could you discuss at Windy, to not close the model-selection panel automatically after a few seconds?
As a user I either want to see that panel to quickly select different models and study their forecast or I want to hide that panel. I do not benefit in any way from an auto-hide mechanism with a time-out that I cannot configure.
The current auto-hide "feature" is a true pain. Let me explain: Lets say, I want to study forecasts, open the panel, select a certain model. Then, I look at the map and after a few seconds the panel closes by itself. The closing also means, that the entire forecast table spontaneously moves in vertical direction, which is extremely distracting when studying the table data.
Then, after half a minute or so I want to see the map data for a different model and have to repeat the above all over again instead of just clicking on a different model.In conclusion: The interaction with the UI is not good at all in this respect. Any automatic things are a bad thing in my opinion. Please realize, that each user has a different time-span for which he needs to have the model-panel open.
Please disable the auto-hide "feature" or at least make it configurable to let the user decide if the model-panel should hide by itself or not.
As an alternative: Please discuss, if it is an option, to move the model-selection panel to the right side below the layer-section symbols.
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A quick addition to my last post:
Since I almost exclusively use Windy to check wind-forecasts in wind-mode, I missed, that you already have a perfectly fine way to switch between weather models.
As long as the user does not uses wind mode, there is a dialog at the right side of the screen that allows to quickly change the weather model (see screenshot). This is perfectly fine, there is no need to have a different approach to change weather-models in wind mode, just reuse the existing approach that is shown in standard mode at the right side of the screen.
In only kindly ask you here as well: Also the "standard" dialog shown in the screenshot needs to be extended to show additional models. When extended, also this dialog closes automatically after a few seconds. Please (please) deactivate this automatic behavior or make the timeout a user-option.
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@Ftjwinfs I will forward this thread to our colleagues, so they can consider this behavior change. However, I can't promise anything at the moment.
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@Suty Thank you
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Any news on this issue?
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@Koss5 "Windy should fire ..." This is a bit harsh, but I can see a general issue here: It looks like the UI designers are operating the code as if it is visiting a toy shop: "Oh I like this one", "No look at this, even better".
You can do that in early stages of development, but people are now using the product at a large scale. You cannot just change the UX every few days, or move functionality around all the time - it pisses people off. Look at Debian: One big update every 2 years. In between, mostly bug fixes, polishing, etc.
Of course you can still do stuff. But you've got to be a bit more cautious. This was one of those 'not so well thought out' things. It has a serious impact on UX. It may look slick, but it's all about how it's actually used.
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@Ftjwinfs RIght now, there are no changes planned for this mode switcher. I am sorry about it.
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@Suty Thank you.
Really, really sad, that the developers apparently cannot unterstand our constructive feedback.
Would it be possible that you share what the reasons were to implement (and keep) the current approach?
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@Ftjwinfs I will do my best. To be sure, do you mean that change of model switcher, when the detail is open, correct?
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@Suty Exactly, I mean this whole issue of the new approach to change the weather model.
- Before: One click to change the model.
- Intermediate approach: A menu that open on click to then select the model.
- Now: A new horizontal bar with full length across the screen which shows available models. This task-bar automatically closes after a number of seconds.
I assume, that some developer really, really loves his new horizontal bar...
Please, at least deactivate the "feature", that the bar automatically vanishes/closes after a certain number of seconds. It seriously drives me crazy, when apps think they know better than myself what I want. If I open the bar to see different models I DO NOT want it to vanish after a number of seconds. I want it to stay open, until I BY MYSELF decide to close it.
Thank you.
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@Ftjwinfs said in Switching between weather models now takes 3 clicks:
Would it be possible that you share what the reasons were to implement (and keep) the current approach?
some AI agent suggested so..
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;)
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said in Switching between weather models now takes 3 clicks:
@Suty Exactly, I mean this whole issue of the new approach to change the weather model.
- Before: One click to change the model.
- Intermediate approach: A menu that open on click to then select the model.
- Now: A new horizontal bar with full length across the screen which shows available models. This task-bar automatically closes after a number of seconds.
I assume, that some developer really, really loves his new horizontal bar...
Please, at least deactivate the "feature", that the bar automatically vanishes/closes after a certain number of seconds. It seriously drives me crazy, when apps think they know better than myself what I want. If I open the bar to see different models I DO NOT want it to vanish after a number of seconds. I want it to stay open, until I BY MYSELF decide to close it.
Thank you.
@Suty since the selection bar for the weather models still automatically vanishes, every word from my cited post above is still valid.
Any news on this?
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It is so sad this can't be natively implemented. And such a simple request with so many interested users and 11k views on the topic.
I have made myself a tempermoneky script to solve this for myself. It may got broken from release to release but at least makes the windy usable.
