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    Radar Layer Improvements - Hail Visualization & Toggle

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    • AvjacoA Offline
      Avjaco | Premium
      last edited by Avjaco

      Hi Windy Team,

      I’d like to suggest some improvements to the current radar layer regarding hail representation.

      The Problem:
      The black "hail dots" currently feel exaggerated and are often misleading. They frequently indicate hail in areas where high freezing levels (especially in the tropics or during summer) mean the hail melts before reaching the ground.

      Suggested Improvements:
      Toggle Option: Please provide an option to deselect or hide the black hail dots on the radar layer.

      Refined dBZ Color Coding:
      Instead of dots, use distinctive colors for high reflectivity ranges to better align with meteorological standards:
      50–55 dBZ: Small hail/heavy rain mix.
      60–65 dBZ: Likely hail/extremely heavy rain.
      70+ dBZ: High certainty of large/giant hail.

      Again, these values only indicate hail presence in the cloud but not necessarily hitting the ground!

      Better Algorithm:
      To more accurately predict hail reaching the ground, I suggest overlapping reflectivity data with radar vertical wind velocities.

      User Guidance:
      It would be very helpful to provide simple in-app guidance explaining how to delineate areas of hail formation versus the actual risk of ground impact.

      The goal is to move away from an "all or nothing" dot display and toward a more nuanced, data-driven visualization.

      Thanks for considering this for the sake of providing more accuracy rather than just adding more unnecessary clutter on your maps.

      Sincerely,
      AJ

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      • idefix37I Offline
        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Avjaco
        last edited by idefix37

        @Avjaco

        Hello,

        They frequently indicate hail in areas where high freezing levels (especially in the tropics or during summer) mean the hail melts before reaching the ground.

        Same as ‘virga’ for rain: the radar shows rain, but sometimes the rain doesn’t reach the ground. I’m not sure the radar data can discriminate the precipitation, rain or hail, reaching or not the ground.

        Toggle Option: Please provide an option to deselect or hide the black hail dots on the radar layer.

        This option is already available in Settings. Disable “Show precipitation type on Radar”

        Instead of dots, use distinctive colors for high reflectivity ranges to better align with meteorological standards:

        You can do it yourself. In Settings see “Customize color scale” and set the colors you want.
        I’ve set a bright red for 54-55dBz to warn of a risk of hail.

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        • AvjacoA Offline
          Avjaco @idefix37 | Premium
          last edited by Avjaco

          @idefix37
          Thank you for bringing to my attention the option in the settings to deselect that “hail” option on the radar layer.

          Please refer to my previous feedback regarding visualization of model precipitation overlay on cloud cover layer.

          Much appreciated

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          • HardikPH Offline
            HardikP External Developers @idefix37
            last edited by HardikP

            @idefix37 ya I do the same thing it's a lot of fun to create colour scale but they do need better algorithm
            For hail except for USA and ground clutter

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            • idefix37I Offline
              idefix37 Sailor Moderator @HardikP
              last edited by

              @HardikP said in Radar Layer Improvements - Hail Visualization & Toggle:

              they do need better algorithm

              You have better algorithm ?

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              • HardikPH Offline
                HardikP External Developers @idefix37
                last edited by

                @idefix37 no

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