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    Why does wind speed change from Basic to Waves & Tide setting?

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    • ehrowdenE Offline
      ehrowden | Premium
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      I noticed this morning that when I switched from Basic view to Waves & Tide the wind speed and gust speed changed.

      I didn't move and this makes me not trust the data. Why and how can I prevent this?

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        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @ehrowden
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        @ehrowden
        Have you checked which weather models were used in both cases ?

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          ehrowden @idefix37 | Premium
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          @idefix37 Fanastic spot. So my basic view is using the mblue AI and the Waves & Tide uses ECMWF.
          Now which is more trustworthy? I need to make business decisions based on this so any advice?

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            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @ehrowden
            last edited by idefix37

            @ehrowden
            If you take “Waves&tides” into account, I assume the location is at sea. Personally, for wind at sea, I would recommend the ECMWF model.
            In addition I would strongly recommend to check “Wind”, which compare several models for wind and for gusts.

            IMG_4495.jpeg

            But note there is an error regarding the model name selected for the map. It is not Meteoblue, but ECMWF, in this example.

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              netledested
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              @ehrowden Wind speed can change because Basic and Waves & Tide settings may use different weather models, data sources, or averaging methods. Marine settings are often optimized for offshore conditions, so the wind value can differ from the basic forecast.

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                idefix37 Sailor Moderator @netledested
                last edited by idefix37

                @netledested

                No, in Windy, each forecast is identified by the weather model that provided it. Therefore, it is important to check which model provided the data.

                Marine settings are often optimized for offshore conditions, so the wind value can differ from the basic forecast.

                That is wrong: the wind data provided by a given weather model for the same point at sea are identical in the "Basic" table and in the "Waves & tides" tables.

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                • ehrowdenE Offline
                  ehrowden @idefix37 | Premium
                  last edited by ehrowden

                  @idefix37 Great - I'm actually sea shore (open water swimming) so would you still recommend Wind. Such variability between the models but at least I can start comparing how it feels with the different models.

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                    idefix37 Sailor Moderator @ehrowden
                    last edited by idefix37

                    @ehrowden
                    I recommend "Wind" for comparing different models for wind, but you can also use "Compare forecast" and select waves to compare wave models.

                    IMG_4513.jpeg

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