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    • J
      jose_fley
      last edited by jose_fley

      In the north of Tenerife (Canary Island). Exactly in Garachico city.

      That picture is from Navionics, right?.
      Thanks

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      • idefix37I
        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @jose_fley
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        @jose_fley
        Yes it’s a picture from Navionics map. Do you use them?

        0_1539546751076_8DDFC902-9674-4D0C-A02F-044B3529FA78.jpeg

        Along which part of the sea shore do you sail? We could have a look to the sea bottom.

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          jose_fley
          last edited by jose_fley

          Navionics and Windy are my favorite apps.
          This week the sea weather is very very bad here
          My sail zone is around the green fish that you can see in the map,
          the exact coordinates of the little port from where i get out are; 28.378502, -16.813212

          0_1539555805826_G.jpg

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            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @jose_fley
            last edited by Gkikas LGPZ

            @jose_fley
            @idefix37
            I want to point out:
            a) the resolution of the wave model is 0.1 degree=6 NM = 11 km,
            so we must not expect different wave height at 200, 300 or 500 m far from the coast.
            Also https://community.windy.com/topic/4541/is-model-resolution-important
            b) Jose's boat is only 3.3 m long.

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            • J
              jose_fley
              last edited by

              Thanks for your reply

              Best regards

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                矢澤旭泰
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                I would like to add a question: How is the direction of "waves" (as called "all wave types combined (swell and wind waves)" in the map forecast or waves_direction-surface in the point forecast API) technically calculated? I assume it somehow combines swell and wind waves, but how are the different directions of swell and wind waves averages to get the "total wave" direction? Thanks a lot for any explanation.

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                  idefix37 Sailor Moderator @矢澤旭泰
                  last edited by idefix37

                  @矢澤旭泰
                  Wave model is based on spectrum analysis of waves and direction of total sea is deducted from it. See page 10.

                  https://confluence.ecmwf.int/download/attachments/59774192/wave_parameters.pdf

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                    moritz.huetten @idefix37
                    last edited by

                    @idefix37 Thanks a lot for the response. How is it done for GFSwave (point forecast API) and ICON?

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                    • idefix37I
                      idefix37 Sailor Moderator @moritz.huetten
                      last edited by idefix37

                      @moritz-huetten
                      These wave models are also based on spectral analysis.
                      GFS wave.
                      https://gfs.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/GfsWave
                      ICON
                      The WAM model developed by DWD was the original model used and improved by ECMWF.
                      So it should be very similar:
                      https://www.dwd.de/DE/leistungen/opendata/help/modelle/legend_ICON_wave_EN_pdf.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3

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                        moritz.huetten @idefix37
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                        @idefix37 Thanks a lot for your response. By the way, how do you extrapolate the wave forecasts beyond the original forecast domain (e.g. GFS Wave), to obtain values close to the coast or even on land?

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                        • idefix37I
                          idefix37 Sailor Moderator @moritz.huetten
                          last edited by

                          @moritz-huetten
                          Do you refer to a precise location? A screenshot would be useful.

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