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    • Marienka
      Marienka last edited by Simona Polackova

      Air sounding, sounding forecast or skew diagram is here! Yes, there are plenty of names for it. :)

      
photo: Windy.com;
link: https://www.windy.com/sounding/59.534/36.387?41.112,28.213,3;
desc: Windy.com map with "Wind" overlay.;
licence: cc;

      What does it even mean?

      Sounding describes a plot of the vertical profile of temperature, dew point and (mostly also) winds above a fixed location. Soundings are used extensively in severe weather forecasting, e.g., to determine instability, locate temperature inversions, measure the strength of the cap (capping inversion), obtain the convective temperature, CAPE (Convective Available Potential Energy), etc.

      Horizontal lines represent height in pressure coordinates (millibars or hPa); diagonal lines represent temperature. Heavy solid lines show the vertical profile of observed temperature (red) and dew point (blue). The grey line shows the temperature of a parcel of surface air and how its temperature would change if it was lifted. Source of information: Weather Online.

      Where do you find it on Windy and how does it work?

      • Desktop version: Just click with right mouse button anywhere on the map, and use the link in the context menu.
      • Mobile devices: A long tap on display will do!

      Above is a quick video tutorial.

      This feature was quickly but carefully developed by our zealous pilot & programmer @TZ who hopes you enjoy it!

      So far we only support the ecmwf model but other models should follow.

      Don't hesitate to give us your feedback!

      
photo: Windy.com;
link: https://www.windy.com/sounding/59.534/36.387?41.112,28.213,3;
desc: Windy.com with "Sounding forecast" feature.;
licence: cc;

      Best wishes
      ~ Marie

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      • Yves70
        Yves70 Meteorologist | Premium last edited by

        SkewT is even more interesting than sounding forecast. Fortunately, there is a plug-in allowing us to use the SkewT.

        It would be good to be able to use sounding or SkewT with different models !

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        • johnckealy
          johnckealy last edited by

          Author of windy-plugins-skewt here.

          So, the "sounding" feature is nothing new... even my plugin is getting a little old! (I'm very much overdue to update it). You have three choices for vertical model profiles: Windy's default sounding (which is NOT a SkewT), or windy-plugins-sounding (which is a SkewT), or windy-plugins-skewt. With windy-plugins-skewt, just select the desired model at the bottom right hand side of the screen.

          Let me know if there is anything you'd like to see in the next version.

          John

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          • Yves70
            Yves70 Meteorologist | Premium last edited by

            Hello John,
            You did a great job with this plugin as I like to use the SkweT, much more than the the sounding ! I never realised that I could easily change the model. I read a post on this community, old post, where you explained if I remember well that SkewT was only available witht the IFS (ECMWF) model. Good to know that I can switch the model !!!
            Is it normal that every time I leave Windy, I have to go to the settings to re-open the plugin ? Once open, I can then chose the SkewT in the list, just below the sounding.
            Yves

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            • johnckealy
              johnckealy last edited by

              @Yves70 thanks! It's really good to know it's being used, much needed motivation to spend some time improving it (which I'll do when I can!) The README is actually just out of date, that's first on the list :)

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                gmahan3 @johnckealy | Premium last edited by

                @johnckealy Just recently learned about soundings and how to use them for aviation planning. Can you explain the differences from what your sounding plug-in illustrates that's differences from the sounding provided natively from Windy. As a novice, I notice some differences but don't know enough to tell them apart to a great degree.

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                • johnckealy
                  johnckealy last edited by

                  @gmahan3

                  Have a read of https://github.com/johnckealy/windy-plugin-skewt and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skew-T_log-P_diagram to start. Skewing the isolines helps clarity, and adding the other lines allows the calculation of a sh*t ton of other thermodynamic quantities. My latest update also allow you to play with parcel ascents (drag the purple dot at the bottom). That will tell you a lot about stability and thunderstorm potential. You can get cloud info, wind shear, instability.... actually now that I think of it, I wrote an article on this a while back:
                  https://community.windy.com/topic/13267/unlocking-the-upper-atmosphere-an-introduction-to-the-skewt?_=1607459144415

                  It can take a little time to get to grips with SkewTs, but for a pilot, it's probably well worth the time. Just google around, there's tons of info about skewTs on the web for beginners. Also google "tephigrams", which may be more relevant depending on your location.

                  Let me know if you have specific questions :)

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                    jaferkac2010 Earthquake @Marienka last edited by

                    @marienka
                    tnx mari.

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                      rbuki @Marienka last edited by

                      @marienka This is a very useful tool, but I do not see the validity time of the forecast sounding 😃
                      For what time is it valid? Thank you, Richard

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                      • idefix37
                        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @rbuki last edited by idefix37

                        @rbuki

                        The validity hour of the sounding forecast is that shown in the timeline.
                        If you move the time slider you see the sounding curves changing accordingly.

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                          rbuki @idefix37 last edited by

                          @idefix37 thank you!

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                          • DukeSlyhawker
                            DukeSlyhawker | Premium last edited by DukeSlyhawker

                            Please explain why there are TWO grey diagonal lines.
                            Which one is the simulated air parcel?

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                            • idefix37
                              idefix37 Sailor Moderator @DukeSlyhawker last edited by

                              @dukeslyhawker
                              See this post which explains the 2 grey lines:
                              https://community.windy.com/topic/6998/windy-offers-sounding-forecast/32

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