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      jethroxd last edited by

      It's my understanding that GFS is fv3, as of now. GFS is the model that the Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration uses (noaa). Noaa has updated gfs to fv3, or gfs includes fv3, or it is a new model. All the same, i believe gfs is fv3? Still referred to as gfs. I have also read several reports that say that the new model may be as good as or better than the European model, interesting.

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        A Former User @jethroxd last edited by A Former User

        @jethroxd

        If so the practical differences in resolution and forecasting detail makes that sort of claim/comparison rather questionable, IMO.

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          jethroxd @Guest last edited by

          As I said, interesting.

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            idefix37 Sailor Moderator @TomSlavkovsky last edited by

            @TomSlavkovsky
            Have you switched to the new GFS FV3 or is it still the old version which is used on Windy?

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              TomSlavkovsky | Premium last edited by

              @idefix37 yes, we are now using GFS FV3

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                idefix37 Sailor Moderator @TomSlavkovsky last edited by idefix37

                @TomSlavkovsky
                Thank you! It’s great to know!

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                  dootsonfire last edited by

                  So what is the grid resolution? Windy still says GFS @ 22km but isn’t FV3 @ 13km?

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                    Tomber42 Moderator @TomSlavkovsky last edited by

                    @TomSlavkovsky said in NOAA is about to make some big changes to its global weather model:

                    @idefix37 yes, we are now using GFS FV3

                    You should clarify that in the text on the windy page if you click at clock symbol

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                      Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @Tomber42 last edited by

                      @Tomber42
                      As I see the wind (or temperature) field over rough terrain (mountains)
                      I believe that GFS is (still) at 22km resolution.

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                        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ last edited by idefix37

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                        @dootsonfire
                        @Tomber42
                        I have got some information from weather specialists and they confirm that:

                        • the old GFS v 14 had already a native resolution of 13km same as the new GFS FV3 v 15. This is the computational resolution.
                          It is confirmed by NOAA :
                          « GFS Version 15.1 maintains a horizontal resolution of 13 km and has 64 levels in the vertical extending up to 0.2 hPa »
                        • The old GFS was dispatched to users by GRIB files with a 0.25° resolution. And this is not changed with the new GFS FV3 v 15.

                        247D2E4C-0231-43E8-B073-6C12480714FE.jpeg

                        Note that 0.25° is close to 27 km, when 23 km is 0.2°

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                          anthony10 @Tomber42 | Premium last edited by

                          @Tomber42 I would also like to see the FV3 being shown in the Clock info panel, something like (GFS - FV3) just to be more clear. :)

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                          • RandyBonnette
                            RandyBonnette last edited by RandyBonnette

                            Hello guys,

                            Here's where you can get more information about FV3-GFS new model: Significant information on the FV3-GFS https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/users/meg/fv3gfs/official and select model (real-time): https://data1.gfdl.noaa.gov/fvGFS/fvGFS_products.php Or find the Pivotalweather portal. You can compare the data there too.

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                              BillGIllian @RandyBonnette last edited by

                              @RandyBonnette said in NOAA is about to make some big changes to its global weather model:

                              guys,
                              Here's where you can get more information about FV3-GFS new model: Significant information on the FV3-GFS https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/users/meg/fv3gfs/website and select model (real-time): https://data1.gfdl.noaa.gov/fvGFS/fvGFS_products.php Or find the Pivotalweather portal. You can compare the data there too.

                              Thanks for recommendations

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                                    jamescrane last edited by

                                    Hey Randy thanks for your reply!

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