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    • mhaberlerM Offline
      mhaberler | Premium
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      @rittels Thanks for this phenomenal job!

      this is already very useful - will do a balloon ride tomorrow early morning and see how that fares relative to the plot!

      If I may add a suggestion:

      if you select several altitudes on the plot it is hard to discern which track belongs to which altitude

      why not choose different colors for each track in the plot and color the altitudes in 'Select levels' accordingly?

      • Michael

      Michael

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      • mhaberlerM Offline
        mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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        quality check.. this looks VERY usable - congratulations! @rittels

        Yesterday's forecast for 5000ft

        actual track

        Google Earth kmz track: http://static.mah.priv.at/kmz/20190630-stiwoll-waldstein.kmz

        Michael

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        • rittelsR Offline
          rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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          @mhaberler

          Wow, amazing.
          Thanks, Michael!!

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          • rittelsR Offline
            rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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            @mhaberler

            Color picker added. windy-plugin-traj@0.1.4.

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            • mhaberlerM Offline
              mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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              @rittels Thanks - this helps a lot to tell the different tracks apart, very useful!

              do I understand this correctly: the traj plugin uses ECMWF data regardless which model is currently selected?

              Michael

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              • rittelsR Offline
                rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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                @mhaberler

                Hi, yes. It uses the pluginDataLoader module to load data for a point. I can select either GFS or ECMWF. Currently I only use ECMWF.

                I can also read the selected model and apply it when loading data. One can then theoretically get a different trajectory for each model, at the same point, time and altitude. May be interesting.

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                • mhaberlerM Offline
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                  @rittels will this plugin stay a plugin or become integral part of windy?

                  reason I'm asking: I want to create a how-to screen video for my fellow balloonists (many of which are from the "grey panther" section and not exactly geeks); probably for airspaces and better-soundings as well

                  I'd rather do that after things stabilize

                  Michael

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                  • rittelsR Offline
                    rittels Code contributor | Premium
                    last edited by rittels

                    I hope so......

                    It would be cool, but it is really a question for @ivo and team. I think it is the plan eventually.

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                    • mhaberlerM Offline
                      mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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                      @rittels meaning 'hope it becomes an integral part'?

                      Michael

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                      • mhaberlerM Offline
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                        @rittels I told my fellow balloonists about that plugin (we have a whatsapp group for winter Alps crossings) and they really like it!

                        the following suggestions came up:

                        (1) place a marker at fixed time intervals so you can tell where you'd be by then

                        maybe make the time per interval dependent on duration, like 15min, 30min, 1hr - I think a total of say 3-6 marks should do (have a look at the meteoblue example above, they mark hourly - good enough for a start)

                        (2) what I really wish I could do: take the forecast/s of a given point in time, and AFTER the flight overlay it with the actual track - but I guess going back in time is not realistic in windy

                        an almost as good solution would be to export the trajectories as gpx or kml/z, so they can be re-imported later together with the actual track

                        Michael

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                        • mhaberlerM Offline
                          mhaberler @stitch | Premium
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                          @stitch I played around with TS trajectories today

                          would you suggest FL140/180/240 are realistic altitudes for thunderstorms (IANAM - I am not a meteorologist :-)

                          this image from today would suggest roughly FL100-140 for best fit (6hrs, TS over Carnian Alps):

                          6ca4c946-6f42-44f4-b18d-26eb9ca81822-image.png

                          Michael

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                          • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @mhaberler
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                            @mhaberler
                            https://community.windy.com/topic/7888/anybody-working-on-a-trajectory-plugin/11
                            IMHO, 700 hPa (FL100) winds are representative to actual tstms movement in most cases.
                            Maybe, because at this height is located the center of gravity of a typical 30,000 ft high tstm.

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                              mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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                              @rittels I only now discovered the feature where clicking trajectory segments reveals the start time of each segment - great!

                              I'm trying to understand the segment duration logic - I made a short screen video for a 12hr trajectory to show where I stumble

                              this trajectory has 5 segments with the following durations:

                              • first segment: 1hr
                              • segments 2,3,4: 3hrs
                              • last segment: 2hrs

                              it seems to me segments #2 and #5 definitely are polylines, but select as a single segment ?

                              NB: just trying to understand - not nitpicking ;-)

                              Michael

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                              • erisyardasE Offline
                                erisyardas @rittels
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                                que es lo que quieres saber

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                                • erisyardasE Offline
                                  erisyardas
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                                  @mhaberler said in anybody working on a trajectory plugin?:

                                  this trajectory has 5 segments with the following durations:

                                  first segment: 1hr
                                  segments 2,3,4: 3hrs
                                  last segment: 2hrs

                                  it seems to me segments #2 and #5 definitely are polylines, but select as a single segment ?
                                  NB: just trying to understand - not nitpicking ;-)

                                  que es lo que quieres saber

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                                  • mhaberlerM Offline
                                    mhaberler @erisyardas | Premium
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                                    @erisyardas point taken

                                    How do I get onto hourly location increments?

                                    Michael

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                                    • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                                      Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @rittels
                                      last edited by Gkikas LGPZ

                                      @rittels
                                      I can not load 0.1.4 (the one with color picker).
                                      I can only load 0.1.3
                                      Am I doing something wrong?

                                      @TomSlavkovsky
                                      https://community.windy.com/topic/7574/available-windy-plugins
                                      Q: windy-plugin-traj@0.1.4 is not (yet) available?

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                                      • mhaberlerM Offline
                                        mhaberler @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
                                        last edited by mhaberler

                                        @Gkikas-LGPZ which browser+OS?

                                        edit: playing with Safari, Firefox, Brave, Chrome - all currently get stuck during segment generation

                                        looks like a temporary network or server issue

                                        edit #2: all working again

                                        Michael

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                                        • rittelsR Offline
                                          rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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                                          @mhaberler @Gkikas-LGPZ

                                          Stuck again, lol. CORS error. We are overloading their servers???

                                          @mhaberler:

                                          The polyline segments represent 3 hour segments, as provided by the pluginDataLoader. Starting 90 minutes past 2400 (GMT).
                                          I added markers at the hour points. Should hopefully work once the server is responding again.

                                          I can add a facility to download and save trajectories, as .gpx.

                                          Will do so later...

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                                          • rittelsR Offline
                                            rittels Code contributor @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
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                                            @Gkikas-LGPZ 0.1.5 latest. Will load 0.1.6 with markers, as soon as server active.

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