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    • mhaberlerM Offline
      mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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      quality check.. this looks VERY usable - congratulations! @rittels

      Yesterday's forecast for 5000ft

      actual track

      Google Earth kmz track: http://static.mah.priv.at/kmz/20190630-stiwoll-waldstein.kmz

      Michael

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        rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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        @mhaberler

        Wow, amazing.
        Thanks, Michael!!

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          rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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          @mhaberler

          Color picker added. windy-plugin-traj@0.1.4.

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          • mhaberlerM Offline
            mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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            @rittels Thanks - this helps a lot to tell the different tracks apart, very useful!

            do I understand this correctly: the traj plugin uses ECMWF data regardless which model is currently selected?

            Michael

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              @mhaberler

              Hi, yes. It uses the pluginDataLoader module to load data for a point. I can select either GFS or ECMWF. Currently I only use ECMWF.

              I can also read the selected model and apply it when loading data. One can then theoretically get a different trajectory for each model, at the same point, time and altitude. May be interesting.

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              • mhaberlerM Offline
                mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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                @rittels will this plugin stay a plugin or become integral part of windy?

                reason I'm asking: I want to create a how-to screen video for my fellow balloonists (many of which are from the "grey panther" section and not exactly geeks); probably for airspaces and better-soundings as well

                I'd rather do that after things stabilize

                Michael

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                • rittelsR Offline
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                  last edited by rittels

                  I hope so......

                  It would be cool, but it is really a question for @ivo and team. I think it is the plan eventually.

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                  • mhaberlerM Offline
                    mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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                    @rittels meaning 'hope it becomes an integral part'?

                    Michael

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                    • mhaberlerM Offline
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                      @rittels I told my fellow balloonists about that plugin (we have a whatsapp group for winter Alps crossings) and they really like it!

                      the following suggestions came up:

                      (1) place a marker at fixed time intervals so you can tell where you'd be by then

                      maybe make the time per interval dependent on duration, like 15min, 30min, 1hr - I think a total of say 3-6 marks should do (have a look at the meteoblue example above, they mark hourly - good enough for a start)

                      (2) what I really wish I could do: take the forecast/s of a given point in time, and AFTER the flight overlay it with the actual track - but I guess going back in time is not realistic in windy

                      an almost as good solution would be to export the trajectories as gpx or kml/z, so they can be re-imported later together with the actual track

                      Michael

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                      • mhaberlerM Offline
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                        @stitch I played around with TS trajectories today

                        would you suggest FL140/180/240 are realistic altitudes for thunderstorms (IANAM - I am not a meteorologist :-)

                        this image from today would suggest roughly FL100-140 for best fit (6hrs, TS over Carnian Alps):

                        6ca4c946-6f42-44f4-b18d-26eb9ca81822-image.png

                        Michael

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                        • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                          Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @mhaberler
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                          @mhaberler
                          https://community.windy.com/topic/7888/anybody-working-on-a-trajectory-plugin/11
                          IMHO, 700 hPa (FL100) winds are representative to actual tstms movement in most cases.
                          Maybe, because at this height is located the center of gravity of a typical 30,000 ft high tstm.

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                            mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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                            @rittels I only now discovered the feature where clicking trajectory segments reveals the start time of each segment - great!

                            I'm trying to understand the segment duration logic - I made a short screen video for a 12hr trajectory to show where I stumble

                            this trajectory has 5 segments with the following durations:

                            • first segment: 1hr
                            • segments 2,3,4: 3hrs
                            • last segment: 2hrs

                            it seems to me segments #2 and #5 definitely are polylines, but select as a single segment ?

                            NB: just trying to understand - not nitpicking ;-)

                            Michael

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                            • erisyardasE Offline
                              erisyardas @rittels
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                              que es lo que quieres saber

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                              • erisyardasE Offline
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                                @mhaberler said in anybody working on a trajectory plugin?:

                                this trajectory has 5 segments with the following durations:

                                first segment: 1hr
                                segments 2,3,4: 3hrs
                                last segment: 2hrs

                                it seems to me segments #2 and #5 definitely are polylines, but select as a single segment ?
                                NB: just trying to understand - not nitpicking ;-)

                                que es lo que quieres saber

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                                • mhaberlerM Offline
                                  mhaberler @erisyardas | Premium
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                                  @erisyardas point taken

                                  How do I get onto hourly location increments?

                                  Michael

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                                  • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                                    Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @rittels
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                                    @rittels
                                    I can not load 0.1.4 (the one with color picker).
                                    I can only load 0.1.3
                                    Am I doing something wrong?

                                    @TomSlavkovsky
                                    https://community.windy.com/topic/7574/available-windy-plugins
                                    Q: windy-plugin-traj@0.1.4 is not (yet) available?

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                                      mhaberler @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
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                                      @Gkikas-LGPZ which browser+OS?

                                      edit: playing with Safari, Firefox, Brave, Chrome - all currently get stuck during segment generation

                                      looks like a temporary network or server issue

                                      edit #2: all working again

                                      Michael

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                                        rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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                                        @mhaberler @Gkikas-LGPZ

                                        Stuck again, lol. CORS error. We are overloading their servers???

                                        @mhaberler:

                                        The polyline segments represent 3 hour segments, as provided by the pluginDataLoader. Starting 90 minutes past 2400 (GMT).
                                        I added markers at the hour points. Should hopefully work once the server is responding again.

                                        I can add a facility to download and save trajectories, as .gpx.

                                        Will do so later...

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                                          rittels Code contributor @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
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                                          @Gkikas-LGPZ 0.1.5 latest. Will load 0.1.6 with markers, as soon as server active.

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                                          • mhaberlerM Offline
                                            mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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                                            @rittels perfect!!
                                            I see - the marks coming from the data import - makes sense now

                                            gpx: really any format is fine

                                            I am very curious to overlay forecast and actual tracks - have done so in the past with a ADS-B track from flightradar24 and trajectories from Meteoblue exported as GPX, eg last slide in http://static.mah.priv.at/public/alpenfahrt-vortrag+folien.pdf

                                            Michael

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