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      stitch Meteorologist @mhaberler | Premium
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      @mhaberler

      like @Gkikas-LGPZ , I generally refer to 700hpa/600hpa as a mean steering wind. But then in northern Aust the summer Tstorms top out in the mid 30k ft to mid 40k ft levels.

      With respect to southern Aust winter Tstorms, then I generally lower the TS tops to mid 20k to 30k ft level and would then look a the 800hpa and 700hpa levels.

      You can see what the forecast CB tops are using "Cloud tops" (just ensure the model is highlighting cellular based clouds and not layered clouds like cirrostratus/altostratus etc).

      I see you have used the radar/lightning window to correlate the Tstorm speed/motion to a wind height field - this is what I would do as well.
      Be wary though of Tstorms that move/turn towards a different directions opposing the mean or normal Tstorm tracks (these anomalous movers could potentially turn into the severe variety of Tstorm).

      There is no steadfast rule....just trial an error.

      All the best with your forecasting ..... @mhaberler

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        mhaberler @stitch | Premium
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        @stitch thanks, really helpful!

        once in a while we have a TS nearby at an event and it is unclear wether we can go for a launch or not; the traj feature helps narrow down the question

        Michael

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          mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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          @rittels 0.2.0 feedback:

          exported trajs now carry over a color - great!

          the gpsvisualizer.com Atlas import snag is gone.

          here is a traj gpx export example, warped into kml with these gpsvisualiser KML settings gpsvisualiser KML settings:

          GE trajs

          I think export is just fine now.

          Since my birthday's coming up... how hard would it be to play traj's from different models?

          Michael

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            mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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            stunning: all pressure levels exported, imported with gpsvisualizer to produce KML

            have a look in Google Earth!

            Michael

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              rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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              @mhaberler said in anybody working on a trajectory plugin?:

              Since my birthday's coming up... how hard would it be to play traj's from different models?

              easy: 0.2.1

              just set the model at the bottom and the plugin will use it. Not sure if all the products are supported by the dataloader.

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                stitch Meteorologist @rittels | Premium
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                @rittels

                Brilliant.......you just keep on delivering. 2 model trajectories

                Thx!!!!!!!

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                  mhaberler @rittels | Premium
                  last edited by mhaberler

                  @rittels GFS definitely works, ICON - need to re-check, NEMS seems not to work

                  perfect!

                  my last suggestion is already down to usability: append the model name to the export file basename, and each track's name after pressure - then clicking the traj in GE will also report the model, not just pressure; less confusion potential when comparing several model results

                  Herewith I've run out of suggestions!

                  Michael

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                    mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
                    last edited by mhaberler

                    @rittels look at that - ECMWF, GFS and ICON trajectories!

                    multimodel traj

                    Edit: KMZ file

                    Michael

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                      mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
                      last edited by mhaberler

                      GFS, ECMWF and ICON works very well
                      NEMS, AROME - no output

                      (IMO not an issue and I dont suggest putting energy into resolution)

                      Michael

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                        mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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                        @rittels we might have serious test material shortly

                        I am attending the Sagrantino Cup from July 26 to Aug 4th, and there should be 50+ hot air balloon teams there

                        there should be 2 flights daily, so that should yield hundreds of tracks in different altitudes

                        I will prepare and publish trajectories twice daily for each takeoff location and ask the teams to share their GPS tracks with me

                        Michael

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                          rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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                          @mhaberler Wow, that looks amazing.

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                            rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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                            @mhaberler said in anybody working on a trajectory plugin?:

                            append the model name

                            0.2.2

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                              Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @rittels
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                              @rittels
                              @ivo
                              Giving ideas!
                              I don't know if its possible to include sea currents in trajectories plugin.
                              It would be very helpful for tracking (lost) floating objects and oil spills
                              (in case of ship accident).
                              Of course, I understand that it will be an experimental product
                              as sea currents data are not updated very often.

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                                Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @Gkikas LGPZ
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                                ... for rubber ducks, also! 😊
                                https://community.windy.com/topic/7181/please-help-to-find-my-ducks

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                                  rittels Code contributor @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
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                                  @Gkikas-LGPZ

                                  Great idea, but don't think the plugin DataLoader contains current data. Possible with the interpolator though. Will try...

                                  Rubber ducks!! 😂

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                                    Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @rittels
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                                    @rittels
                                    They "pay 100 EUR/duck for the person who find it." 🤣

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                                      mhaberler @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
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                                      @Gkikas-LGPZ my ISP career has taught me to stop when done.. which I do here - I am all for single-feature-well-done tools and less so for feature creep

                                      But I guess someone interested in sea currents could take traj as a an example and base to work from

                                      Michael

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                                        mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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                                        @rittels works fine - all relevant info carried over!

                                        thanks for jumping that many hoops so far!

                                        Michael

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                                          mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
                                          last edited by mhaberler

                                          @rittels

                                          I just found an interesting feature - incidentally very useful:

                                          • do a trajectory for some future point in time and just let the window sit (do not clear)

                                          • hit 'Start' again once a new model run becomes available

                                          • since the old trajectory is not erased, both (or all) are shown together on one screen - i.e. you can immediately judge how the wind forecast changes over successive model runs

                                          That is super useful for Alps crossings - we need something between 340 deg NW and 10 deg NE to make it across quickly enough and still hit the Po valley

                                          since usually such a crossing is planned days in advance (like 5) the trend in forecast changes is essential even if things looked good initially

                                          Bildschirmfoto 2019-07-06 um 12.11.42.jpg

                                          Michael

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                                            mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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                                            nice animations made possible with the traj plugin:

                                            Michael

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