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    • rittelsR Offline
      rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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      @mhaberler Wow, that looks amazing.

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        rittels Code contributor @mhaberler | Premium
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        @mhaberler said in anybody working on a trajectory plugin?:

        append the model name

        0.2.2

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        • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
          Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @rittels
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          @rittels
          @ivo
          Giving ideas!
          I don't know if its possible to include sea currents in trajectories plugin.
          It would be very helpful for tracking (lost) floating objects and oil spills
          (in case of ship accident).
          Of course, I understand that it will be an experimental product
          as sea currents data are not updated very often.

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          • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @Gkikas LGPZ
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            ... for rubber ducks, also! 😊
            https://community.windy.com/topic/7181/please-help-to-find-my-ducks

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              rittels Code contributor @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
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              @Gkikas-LGPZ

              Great idea, but don't think the plugin DataLoader contains current data. Possible with the interpolator though. Will try...

              Rubber ducks!! 😂

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              • Gkikas LGPZG Offline
                Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @rittels
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                @rittels
                They "pay 100 EUR/duck for the person who find it." 🤣

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                • mhaberlerM Offline
                  mhaberler @Gkikas LGPZ | Premium
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                  @Gkikas-LGPZ my ISP career has taught me to stop when done.. which I do here - I am all for single-feature-well-done tools and less so for feature creep

                  But I guess someone interested in sea currents could take traj as a an example and base to work from

                  Michael

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                  • mhaberlerM Offline
                    mhaberler @rittels | Premium
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                    @rittels works fine - all relevant info carried over!

                    thanks for jumping that many hoops so far!

                    Michael

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                      mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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                      @rittels

                      I just found an interesting feature - incidentally very useful:

                      • do a trajectory for some future point in time and just let the window sit (do not clear)

                      • hit 'Start' again once a new model run becomes available

                      • since the old trajectory is not erased, both (or all) are shown together on one screen - i.e. you can immediately judge how the wind forecast changes over successive model runs

                      That is super useful for Alps crossings - we need something between 340 deg NW and 10 deg NE to make it across quickly enough and still hit the Po valley

                      since usually such a crossing is planned days in advance (like 5) the trend in forecast changes is essential even if things looked good initially

                      Bildschirmfoto 2019-07-06 um 12.11.42.jpg

                      Michael

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                        mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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                        nice animations made possible with the traj plugin:

                        Michael

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                        • mhaberlerM Offline
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                          last edited by mhaberler

                          @rittels is doing a superb job on the traj plugin (currently at 0.2.8) - it is progressing very fast

                          I'm just Joe User here, so let me give you an example where things stand and others can reproduce -

                          Assumptions:

                          • a balloon ride starting July 11local at my home in Stiwoll, Austria
                          • simulate all flight levels up to FL180
                          • simulate with all three available models: ECMWF, ICON-EU and GFS
                          • do this without simulated ascent/descent
                          • do this with 3m/s ascent and descent
                          • save the resulting GPX files (2 sets of 3 files)
                          • convert those to KML with https://www.gpsvisualizer.com/map_input?form=googleearth
                          • load the kmz's into Google Earth and screenshot those

                          all artefacts can be found here: http://static.mah.priv.at/traj/0.2.8/

                          Google Earth screenshots without ascent/descent simulation:

                          no simulation of ascent/descent

                          with 3m/s ascent and descent:

                          3m/s ascent and descent

                          gpsvisualizer parameter settings:

                          gpsvisualizer parameter settings

                          Michael

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                            mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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                            (the spam checker flagged the second image as spam - see directly at http://static.mah.priv.at/traj/0.2.8/)

                            Michael

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                            • rittelsR Offline
                              rittels Code contributor | Premium
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                              0.3.5 latest.

                              Now allows backward trajectory. still a bit buggy

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                              • rittelsR Offline
                                rittels Code contributor | Premium
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                                0.4.4 latest: Fixed error in time interpolation.

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                                • mhaberlerM Offline
                                  mhaberler | Premium
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                                  I have a lot more confidence in the lowlevel trajectories with 0.4.5:

                                  http://static.mah.priv.at/public/20190720211743-47167-map.kmz
                                  http://static.mah.priv.at/public/trajectory__2019-07-22T04_00_00.gpx

                                  very good fit with particle animation now!

                                  Michael

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                                  • mhaberlerM Offline
                                    mhaberler | Premium
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                                    semi-related: I wrote up a tutorial on Alps crossings with a hot air balloon as there is next to zero material available on the issue

                                    it gives an idea of the meteorological prerequisites: http://static.mah.priv.at/public/alpcrossing/assets/player/KeynoteDHTMLPlayer.html#0

                                    (suggestions for improvement and bug reports welcome)

                                    Michael

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                                      Here is a comparison of forecast versus actual GPS track - the flight was mostly at 600-700m altitude, meaning the red and orange forecast trajectories apply

                                      The match is simply amazing!

                                      flight profile

                                      forecast-vs-track-04082019.jpg

                                      forecast files:
                                      http://static.mah.priv.at/sagrantino2019/sun0408/traj-acquarossa-04082019.kmz
                                      http://static.mah.priv.at/sagrantino2019/sun0408/trajectory__2019-08-04T04_00_00.gpx

                                      track files:
                                      http://static.mah.priv.at/kmz/todi2019/20190804-acquarossa-duesanti.kmz
                                      http://static.mah.priv.at/kmz/20190804-acquarossa-duesanti.gpx

                                      Michael

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                                        mhaberler @mhaberler | Premium
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                                        Here's a short tutorial on creating trajectories with windy and the traj plugin:

                                        https://blog.mah.priv.at/index.php/2019/08/10/creating-wind-trajectories-with-windy-com/

                                        Michael

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                                        • mhaberlerM Offline
                                          mhaberler | Premium
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                                          The Gordon Bennet Cup is coming up in early September - it's the most prestigious competition for gas balloon pilots. Balloons stay up for 3-4 days and the team which flew the longest distance wins.

                                          Meteo forecasting is important - so there's support on the ground helping the pilots decide.

                                          This year, several teams will be supported by a "weatherman" who uses the windy traj plugin for forecasting!

                                          If everything goes well, after the event we should have the forecast and actual tracks flown, giving an idea how well this works for loooong flights.

                                          Michael

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                                          • mhaberlerM Offline
                                            mhaberler | Premium
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                                            Here is a case study on forecast with the traj plugin, versus track actually flown with a hot air balloon

                                            the match is superb: https://blog.mah.priv.at/index.php/2019/08/11/trajectory-forecast-vs-track-flown-a-case-study/

                                            Michael

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