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    Sounding Plugin - for paraglider pilots

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    • Gkikas LGPZ
      Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @vicb last edited by

      @vicb
      I can run J. C. Kealy's skewT but I cannot find your Sounding plugin.
      Am I doing something wrong?
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      • siim
        siim last edited by

        Load plugin and then right click on map.

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        • Gkikas LGPZ
          Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @siim last edited by

          @siim
          OK, thx. it works now.
          I thought I could find it in the "More layers..." drop-down menu as for SkewT

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          • Gkikas LGPZ
            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ last edited by Gkikas LGPZ

            @vicb
            I suggest to indicate units (height=ft?, wind speed=kts?)

            Also, you can ask for help from Alan Walls, who made one of the best SkewT apps
            https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ajw.skewt&hl=en

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            • vicb
              vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

              @Gkikas-LGPZ Units should be what you have configured in windy settings - I'll add them on the graphs at some point.

              There are quite a few things I want to improve/polish and then I'll get the android app you pointed to. Thanks !

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                raf-t Paraglider last edited by

                hi victor,
                i m quite new to windy plugins, so this may be a stupid question : do you think it could be possible to have a direct link that would point to your plugin for a given url and which would show your sounding ?
                not sure how/if a plugin can be loaded when page opens...
                regards
                raphael

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                • vicb
                  vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                  I don't think it's possible right now as plugins have to be loaded explicitly.

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                    stitch Meteorologist | Premium last edited by

                    @vicb ,

                    I commend you for your work done on the F160 plugin.

                    Do you have a preference for km/h units in the F160 wind field? Or, could I sway you to use knots as an alternative - widely used unit in marine and aviation professions.

                    Thanks for you work.

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                    • vicb
                      vicb Paraglider @stitch | Premium last edited by

                      @stitch The plug-in uses you preferred units are as configured in the windy settings.

                      There might be some bugs and I still have to add units on the axis but it will come.

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                      • Gkikas LGPZ
                        Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @vicb last edited by

                        @vicb
                        What does those numbers mean?
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                        • vicb
                          vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                          The intersection between the green and red lines is the top of thermals (1900ft on the screenshot) - that's how high glider pilots can expect to reach when flying.

                          The cursor is supposed to show the altitude - 68900 should be 21000(ft) but there was a bug with imperial units that I just fixed in 1.1.6. Thanks for reporting !

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                          • Gkikas LGPZ
                            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @vicb last edited by

                            @vicb
                            I think the scale on the left is wrong
                            (shows aprox. 1000ft less in low altitudes and 2000ft less in high altitudes).
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                            example: point "A" marks the temp. at 300 hPa (30000 ft, FL300)
                            but the diagram shows 28300 (1700ft off). .....

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                            • Gkikas LGPZ
                              Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ last edited by

                              ..... at lower levels
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                              point "B" marks the temp. at 600 hPa (13800 ft, FL140)
                              but the diagram shows 12000 ft (1800ft off).

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                              • mhaberler
                                mhaberler | Premium last edited by

                                I really like the better-sounding plugin!

                                I have a few suggestions for improvement:

                                • make the Favorites display optional with a toggle button like 'Zoom View' - it takes a lot of screen real estate and if you're probing locations you might not necessarily limit yourself to favorite locations
                                • make the ground brown box translucent so you can see temp and dewpoint at low altitudes - the values vanish in the brown box like so: https://snipboard.io/p3Za7H.jpg (or maybe remove the brown box to start with and mark ground level with a line - the box adds no information per se)
                                • try the plugin on a a few mobiles (or mobile screen predefs in Chrome Dev Tools) - pretty much unusable. Width and height not adapted to screen size. Works great on a PC though.

                                thanks for adding this!

                                best regards,

                                Michael

                                Michael

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                                • vicb
                                  vicb Paraglider @mhaberler | Premium last edited by vicb

                                  @mhaberler Thanks for the feedback Michael.

                                  1. Making the plugin better on mobile is something I plan to work on. Only a few users know that you can load plugins on mobiles so it was not high priority.

                                  2. Could you elaborate more on favorites, why is your use case usage ? One thing I was thinking about is to display only the 5/10 favorite spots closest to the current location to save screen real estate. However I ended up having < 15 favorites and haven't found it to be inconvenient. There is probably room for improvement here - we only need to find a good way.

                                  3. What would be the use to see below ground ? AFAIR it seems like some models do not have sensible values below ground level.

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                                  • mhaberler
                                    mhaberler @vicb | Premium last edited by

                                    @vicb right, continuation of dewpoints/temps 'underground' doesnt make any sense

                                    now if you're looking into mobile screen real estate is an issue to start with, so maybe drop the brown box altogether and save some pixels for the skewt diagram - just start at ground level and record ground elevation

                                    my use case: I use the traj plugin for planning balloon rides

                                    so I pick a track which is likely and nice, and then check conditions along this path

                                    'along this path' practically never translates into a favorite location - so in this case just used up screen space for no use

                                    Michael

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                                    • grantonthefly
                                      grantonthefly last edited by

                                      The plugin is incredible Viclo, thank you

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                                      • vicb
                                        vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                                        Happy that you like it @grantonthefly

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                                        • grantonthefly
                                          grantonthefly last edited by

                                          Hopefully, we will get the functionality to able to load it from the windy quick menu on desktop instead of from menu bar everytime. Are you able to access your plugin on mobile?

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                                          • vicb
                                            vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                                            The fastest way to load the plugin is to visit https://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-sounding then you click on load an done.

                                            It also works on mobile if you use a browser - unfortunately it doesn't work with the mobile app for security reason.

                                            Note that because almost nobody knows how to load plugins in a mobile browser the plugin is not well suited for mobile yet but that's something I plan to work on over the coming month.

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