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      stitch Meteorologist | Premium last edited by

      @vicb ,

      I commend you for your work done on the F160 plugin.

      Do you have a preference for km/h units in the F160 wind field? Or, could I sway you to use knots as an alternative - widely used unit in marine and aviation professions.

      Thanks for you work.

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      • vicb
        vicb Paraglider @stitch | Premium last edited by

        @stitch The plug-in uses you preferred units are as configured in the windy settings.

        There might be some bugs and I still have to add units on the axis but it will come.

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        • Gkikas LGPZ
          Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @vicb last edited by

          @vicb
          What does those numbers mean?
          63534ef9-985b-49c3-b4f1-ccb429fe6b1c-εικόνα.png

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          • vicb
            vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

            The intersection between the green and red lines is the top of thermals (1900ft on the screenshot) - that's how high glider pilots can expect to reach when flying.

            The cursor is supposed to show the altitude - 68900 should be 21000(ft) but there was a bug with imperial units that I just fixed in 1.1.6. Thanks for reporting !

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            • Gkikas LGPZ
              Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @vicb last edited by

              @vicb
              I think the scale on the left is wrong
              (shows aprox. 1000ft less in low altitudes and 2000ft less in high altitudes).
              24b6ef6c-5c80-4c58-b189-0f94508e7498-εικόνα.png
              example: point "A" marks the temp. at 300 hPa (30000 ft, FL300)
              but the diagram shows 28300 (1700ft off). .....

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                Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @Gkikas LGPZ last edited by

                ..... at lower levels
                ac6633de-53d2-412a-8258-f69850553780-εικόνα.png
                point "B" marks the temp. at 600 hPa (13800 ft, FL140)
                but the diagram shows 12000 ft (1800ft off).

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                • mhaberler
                  mhaberler | Premium last edited by

                  I really like the better-sounding plugin!

                  I have a few suggestions for improvement:

                  • make the Favorites display optional with a toggle button like 'Zoom View' - it takes a lot of screen real estate and if you're probing locations you might not necessarily limit yourself to favorite locations
                  • make the ground brown box translucent so you can see temp and dewpoint at low altitudes - the values vanish in the brown box like so: https://snipboard.io/p3Za7H.jpg (or maybe remove the brown box to start with and mark ground level with a line - the box adds no information per se)
                  • try the plugin on a a few mobiles (or mobile screen predefs in Chrome Dev Tools) - pretty much unusable. Width and height not adapted to screen size. Works great on a PC though.

                  thanks for adding this!

                  best regards,

                  Michael

                  Michael

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                  • vicb
                    vicb Paraglider @mhaberler | Premium last edited by vicb

                    @mhaberler Thanks for the feedback Michael.

                    1. Making the plugin better on mobile is something I plan to work on. Only a few users know that you can load plugins on mobiles so it was not high priority.

                    2. Could you elaborate more on favorites, why is your use case usage ? One thing I was thinking about is to display only the 5/10 favorite spots closest to the current location to save screen real estate. However I ended up having < 15 favorites and haven't found it to be inconvenient. There is probably room for improvement here - we only need to find a good way.

                    3. What would be the use to see below ground ? AFAIR it seems like some models do not have sensible values below ground level.

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                    • mhaberler
                      mhaberler @vicb | Premium last edited by

                      @vicb right, continuation of dewpoints/temps 'underground' doesnt make any sense

                      now if you're looking into mobile screen real estate is an issue to start with, so maybe drop the brown box altogether and save some pixels for the skewt diagram - just start at ground level and record ground elevation

                      my use case: I use the traj plugin for planning balloon rides

                      so I pick a track which is likely and nice, and then check conditions along this path

                      'along this path' practically never translates into a favorite location - so in this case just used up screen space for no use

                      Michael

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                      • grantonthefly
                        grantonthefly last edited by

                        The plugin is incredible Viclo, thank you

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                        • vicb
                          vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                          Happy that you like it @grantonthefly

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                          • grantonthefly
                            grantonthefly last edited by

                            Hopefully, we will get the functionality to able to load it from the windy quick menu on desktop instead of from menu bar everytime. Are you able to access your plugin on mobile?

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                            • vicb
                              vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                              The fastest way to load the plugin is to visit https://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-sounding then you click on load an done.

                              It also works on mobile if you use a browser - unfortunately it doesn't work with the mobile app for security reason.

                              Note that because almost nobody knows how to load plugins in a mobile browser the plugin is not well suited for mobile yet but that's something I plan to work on over the coming month.

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                              • idefix37
                                idefix37 Sailor Moderator @vicb last edited by

                                @vicb said in Sounding Plugin - for paraglider pilots:

                                It also works on mobile if you use a browser

                                Hi, I use an iPad with the mobile browser (chrome) from time to time. How to load plugins by this way?

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                                • vicb
                                  vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                                  @vicb said in Sounding Plugin - for paraglider pilots:

                                  visit https://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-sounding

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                                  • idefix37
                                    idefix37 Sailor Moderator @vicb last edited by idefix37

                                    @vicb
                                    Thanks, your link works for me to get the Sounding Plugin on mobile browser on iPad.
                                    Then further to this plugin, I have finally found how to get all plugins via mobile browser. Bookmark this URL on mobile browser, not in the app:
                                    https://www.windy.com/plugins?47.398,0.704,5

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                                    • MarkRD
                                      MarkRD last edited by

                                      Hi @vicb,

                                      I noticed that the cloud level altitude (on the right) and the altitude scale (on the left) don't seem to match up. Do they use different units, or represent different things?

                                      Screenshot 2020-10-01 at 13.10.34.png

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                                      • MarkRD
                                        MarkRD @MarkRD last edited by

                                        Seems to perhaps be more noticeable when the zoom is off...

                                        Screenshot 2020-10-01 at 13.14.50.png

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                                        • vicb
                                          vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                                          Definitely a bug. I created https://github.com/vicb/windy-plugin-sounding/issues/6 and will work on it soon. Thanks for reporting.

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                                          • vicb
                                            vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                                            Hey @MarkRD could you please let me know what location and time lead to the bug ? I have problem to reproduce the issue.

                                            The could base altitude that is see matches the actual altitude in my tests (when you hover on the graph you can see the altitude on the horizontal bar and the cloud base matches that at +/- 100m but that is due to rounding error).

                                            What you pic shows is different. 3100m as no reason to be below 3000m.

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