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    • mhaberler
      mhaberler | Premium last edited by

      I really like the better-sounding plugin!

      I have a few suggestions for improvement:

      • make the Favorites display optional with a toggle button like 'Zoom View' - it takes a lot of screen real estate and if you're probing locations you might not necessarily limit yourself to favorite locations
      • make the ground brown box translucent so you can see temp and dewpoint at low altitudes - the values vanish in the brown box like so: https://snipboard.io/p3Za7H.jpg (or maybe remove the brown box to start with and mark ground level with a line - the box adds no information per se)
      • try the plugin on a a few mobiles (or mobile screen predefs in Chrome Dev Tools) - pretty much unusable. Width and height not adapted to screen size. Works great on a PC though.

      thanks for adding this!

      best regards,

      Michael

      Michael

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      • vicb
        vicb Paraglider @mhaberler | Premium last edited by vicb

        @mhaberler Thanks for the feedback Michael.

        1. Making the plugin better on mobile is something I plan to work on. Only a few users know that you can load plugins on mobiles so it was not high priority.

        2. Could you elaborate more on favorites, why is your use case usage ? One thing I was thinking about is to display only the 5/10 favorite spots closest to the current location to save screen real estate. However I ended up having < 15 favorites and haven't found it to be inconvenient. There is probably room for improvement here - we only need to find a good way.

        3. What would be the use to see below ground ? AFAIR it seems like some models do not have sensible values below ground level.

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        • mhaberler
          mhaberler @vicb | Premium last edited by

          @vicb right, continuation of dewpoints/temps 'underground' doesnt make any sense

          now if you're looking into mobile screen real estate is an issue to start with, so maybe drop the brown box altogether and save some pixels for the skewt diagram - just start at ground level and record ground elevation

          my use case: I use the traj plugin for planning balloon rides

          so I pick a track which is likely and nice, and then check conditions along this path

          'along this path' practically never translates into a favorite location - so in this case just used up screen space for no use

          Michael

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          • grantonthefly
            grantonthefly last edited by

            The plugin is incredible Viclo, thank you

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            • vicb
              vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

              Happy that you like it @grantonthefly

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              • grantonthefly
                grantonthefly last edited by

                Hopefully, we will get the functionality to able to load it from the windy quick menu on desktop instead of from menu bar everytime. Are you able to access your plugin on mobile?

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                • vicb
                  vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                  The fastest way to load the plugin is to visit https://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-sounding then you click on load an done.

                  It also works on mobile if you use a browser - unfortunately it doesn't work with the mobile app for security reason.

                  Note that because almost nobody knows how to load plugins in a mobile browser the plugin is not well suited for mobile yet but that's something I plan to work on over the coming month.

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                  • idefix37
                    idefix37 Sailor Moderator @vicb last edited by

                    @vicb said in Sounding Plugin - for paraglider pilots:

                    It also works on mobile if you use a browser

                    Hi, I use an iPad with the mobile browser (chrome) from time to time. How to load plugins by this way?

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                    • vicb
                      vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                      @vicb said in Sounding Plugin - for paraglider pilots:

                      visit https://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-sounding

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                      • idefix37
                        idefix37 Sailor Moderator @vicb last edited by idefix37

                        @vicb
                        Thanks, your link works for me to get the Sounding Plugin on mobile browser on iPad.
                        Then further to this plugin, I have finally found how to get all plugins via mobile browser. Bookmark this URL on mobile browser, not in the app:
                        https://www.windy.com/plugins?47.398,0.704,5

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                        • MarkRD
                          MarkRD last edited by

                          Hi @vicb,

                          I noticed that the cloud level altitude (on the right) and the altitude scale (on the left) don't seem to match up. Do they use different units, or represent different things?

                          Screenshot 2020-10-01 at 13.10.34.png

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                          • MarkRD
                            MarkRD @MarkRD last edited by

                            Seems to perhaps be more noticeable when the zoom is off...

                            Screenshot 2020-10-01 at 13.14.50.png

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                            • vicb
                              vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                              Definitely a bug. I created https://github.com/vicb/windy-plugin-sounding/issues/6 and will work on it soon. Thanks for reporting.

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                              • vicb
                                vicb Paraglider | Premium last edited by

                                Hey @MarkRD could you please let me know what location and time lead to the bug ? I have problem to reproduce the issue.

                                The could base altitude that is see matches the actual altitude in my tests (when you hover on the graph you can see the altitude on the horizontal bar and the cloud base matches that at +/- 100m but that is due to rounding error).

                                What you pic shows is different. 3100m as no reason to be below 3000m.

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                                • MarkRD
                                  MarkRD @vicb last edited by

                                  @vicb The location was S26 10'09'', E28 0'35''. Unfortunately, I don't know which GFS forecast time it was for exactly but it would have been for one of the hours yesterday (1st Oct 2020) - I'm not sure how to get the time slider to go back a day on windy.com.

                                  I will keep an eye out for if I see something like it again (all my sounding plots today look fine with the cloud base altitude reflecting values within the vertical axis as one would expect). If I do see it again, I will add a comment on your issues page with more complete information (location, date, model, forecast hour etc) - apologies for that.

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                                  • MarkRD
                                    MarkRD @vicb last edited by

                                    @vicb I posted another instance I found on your github issue page. I hope it helps. I'm a bit suspicious that it happens with the same altitude again (in a different location).

                                    I've only ever seen it happening with the GFS model, not ECWMF yet, if that is of any help.

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                                    • vicb
                                      vicb Paraglider @MarkRD | Premium last edited by

                                      @MarkRD Thanks a lot.

                                      As I replied on github you have identified a bug in the plugin. It comes from the fact that the relation between altitude and pressure is not linear.

                                      I need some time to think about the best possible fix. Probably a few days.

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                                      • MarkRD
                                        MarkRD @vicb last edited by

                                        @vicb No rush! Thanks for a cool plugin.

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                                        • vicb
                                          vicb Paraglider @vicb | Premium last edited by

                                          The plugin now works better on mobile and tablets.

                                          As a reminder plugins do not work on the installed mobile apps but you can use them by loading windy in a web browser on your mobile or tablet.

                                          Visit https://www.windy.com/plugins/windy-plugin-sounding to load the plugin on a mobile device.

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                                          • rittels
                                            rittels Code contributor @vicb | Premium last edited by

                                            @vicb

                                            Excellent! Works well.

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