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    • ltkmrL Offline
      ltkmr | Premium
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      I really like the spirit of this post and I agree to pretty much everything you stated. I am however worried, that adoption of decarbonisation is not progressing close to fast enough. I am also worried that the 2°C goal is not ambitious enough. Changes in the planets albedo, defrosting the permafrost may bring up irreversible change before the 2° carbon budget is exhausted.

      To remain inside the 1.5°C limit we only have like 8 years left at current exhaust. While I believe that a future decarbonised society will be a happier place, I also believe that climate catastrophe is inevitable. The 140*10^6 expected refugees will happen and we will loose coastal lines around the planet. I am not sure what's left of the eco system will be able to sustain our species.

      I nevertheless think that this next big thing is the next big thing, and we must proceed at highest speed regardless.

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        Gkikas LGPZ Moderator Meteorologist @ivo
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        @ivo
        Germany to close all 84 of its coal-fired power plants ....
        https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germany-coal-power-20190126-story.html

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          jmh2002 Moderator Mariners - Seafarers Sailor @ivo
          last edited by jmh2002

          An interesting and stimulating post that I'm sure will generate further discussion, thank you @ivo

          @ivo said in The next BIG THING:

          ...there is almost nobody who would deny the fact that the climate is changing.

          But when I talk about decarbonization, I see the same set of reactions: “Yes there is Climate Change, but we humans are not responsible for it”...

          A small comment that I would like to add from a pragmatic (practical, sensible and realistic) point of view is "So What".

          So what if humans are not responsible for Climate Change.

          It doesn't really matter who is responsible. It is time to move past this question and discussion about blame (or not) and simply understand that change is happening anyway.

          Sometimes change is unwanted, and sometimes it is unpleasant, just like our daily and yearly personal lives can be too.

          In the same way the best reaction is to accept that change will happen, and is happening, and it is inevitable, for all of us. We cannot escape it.

          And as in our personal lives, let's try to adapt, let's change too, and let's try to at least counter the effects of change to maintain the status quo in our lives, and if possible even make an improvement.

          I think we can all agree that we would like to improve our lives :)

          WINDY is everywhere :)

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          • pavelneumanP Offline
            pavelneuman
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            Wow, great post, especially the happiness part. Thumbs UP!

            Severe #weather & dark music junkie. CMO at StormHour.com, biz-dev & partnerships at EXTREMEWEATHER.CLUB

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              jmh2002 Moderator Mariners - Seafarers Sailor
              last edited by jmh2002

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              • Simona PolackovaS Offline
                Simona Polackova | Premium
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                Great article! Thank you for summing up all these thoughts.

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                  spazik
                  last edited by

                  Great article, but I feel like it is basicly impossible to do 0 CO2 emissions in 2050.

                  I mean even if we would replace all cars with electric and used only 100% renowable energy to charge them (which this task alone seems quite impossible). There are still airplanes, huge cargo ships, heavy industry etc. where zero emissions alternatives are not even in sight yet...

                  It seems like we are not going to have good enough 0 emissions energy source to power planes or cargo ships in 100+ years...
                  Nuclear seems to be one of the ways to go, but there are obvious major risks with it.
                  Batteries to store electric energy have huge limits based on bacis physics. I just can not imagine airliner or cargo ship powered by batteries by 2050. We already have this technology 100+ years but it really did not improve too much during all those years.

                  I feel like the most impact could be done by stopping population explosion in developing countries and stopping destruction of tropical forrest etc., which are countering CO2 a lot.

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                    martinwww
                    last edited by martinwww

                    I am afraid that we cannot expect that majority of people will voluntarily change their mind. Heavy taxation will do the job, but if everything will be more expensive - energy, travelling, food, transportation etc... that does not sound like paradise for 'average Joe' (=person who does not care about long-term outcomes...).

                    Who will vote policymaker which will promise that everything will be more expensive ? :(

                    What do you think about hot-house earth scenarios ?

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                    • StjopaS Offline
                      Stjopa @ivo
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                      @ivo heat increase carbonization, not carbonization increase heat. IPCC is simple mob organization.

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                        Chaglla
                        last edited by

                        0 emisiones el 2050...
                        Difícil.
                        No obstante la ruta está marcada.
                        Gracias Ivo.

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                          yanca @spazik
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                          @spazik The solution is not the technology, much more important is the behaviour - changing the way of life, our daily routines. Technology can greatly help.
                          But we have to have goal to page the way to achieve that. We will be lost in our way without as goal.

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                            silwallace
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                            all this is a fantazy

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                              treble752003
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                              This is the Story of LIFE
                              Make its voice loud to be heard by All.

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                              • TZT Offline
                                TZ Windy Staff
                                last edited by

                                This is very well composed and positive article. Thank you @ivo! We should definitely give this article more publicity.
                                I would say: People should quickly learn to "think globally". And then "cooperate globally". World is shared, world is finite and we already reached its limit.

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                                  ivo Windy Staff @TZ
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                                  @TZ dekuji nacelniku ze ses mne zastal :-)

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                                  • cobachotixC Offline
                                    cobachotix | Premium
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                                    Great article, very positive and hopefully inspiring many, many people to REALLY follow decarbonization as a daily task. We will not need 30 Years, if TODAY, we ALL consider OURSELVES as responsible INSTANTLY and REALLY act accordingly. I guess we could reduce by 90% all our carbon-stimullatig activities, if we simply see that everyone does it. Articles as this do help to create that finaly convincement human being always needs to change. Thank you to the Author.

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                                      1rst Spark @silwallace
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                                      @silwallace yes it is; you know it and I know it, and a few others as well, but the majority of us will believe anything that the media beats into our brains

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                                        Bruceifer
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                                        http://www.longrangeweather.com/global_temperatures.htm

                                        100 super container ships produce as much pollution as all the cars in the world

                                        Approximately every 100,000 years, Earth's orbital path changes from being nearly circular to elliptical.

                                        https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2018/11/07/discovery-of-massive-volcanic-co2-emissions-puts-damper-on-global-warming-theory/

                                        I don't know the answers. There is a lot of wrong data out there. Wrong theories and wrong ideas.

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                                          Silentsurfer
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                                          Perfectly stated article, hopefully not too late. No further discussion. Its all here for everyone to see. Lets just do it, get on with it, and save this planet for our Children and their children. Its big corporate interests that has held us back, killed any innovation of the past. So lets just get it done. Every one of us needs to make a difference to climate change and plastic pollution. Save our animal species from extinction. Lets do it. Bruce South Africa 🇿🇦

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                                            Cyber Weather
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                                            The truth is we are about to enter a cold phase on the planet. Secondly, if you are going to be political rather than scientific I will find a different site. You can not spout 'true is statements' when you ignore science. Stick to supplying data not opinions.

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