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    • idefix37
      idefix37 Sailor Moderator last edited by

      It's really fabulous !! This addition is huge, congratulations to the team !

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      • setvak
        setvak @Gkikas LGPZ last edited by

        @Gkikas-LGPZ

        Detailed description of why we (weather satellite community) use this color scheme can be found e.g. here: https://cwg.eumetsat.int/color-enhancements/

        In brief - the color layout follows:

        1. Wien's displacement law - blue color represents warmer range, red coldest range (the same principle as color of stars in astronomy)
        2. Red is for a human brain a signal of some form of danger - in case of convective storms the most dangerous parts of storm tops are the highest tops, which are also the coldest ones.

        The typical color enhancement range for European (mid-latitude) storms is between 200K (red) and 240K (blue). For higher latitudes it needs to be shifted to the warmer range, while for tropics and subtropics it needs to be shifted to 190-230K, for the highest storms to 185-225K. It does NOT represent actual distribution and intensity of precipitation, though the coldest parts of storms are in most cases precipitating. In some cases even cirrus clouds (namely those in mountain waves or in a jet-stream) can be very cold, but without any precipitation.

        Martin Setvák, CHMI

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        • iz5bxf
          iz5bxf | Premium last edited by

          Simply Fantastic

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          • Gkikas LGPZ
            Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @setvak last edited by

            @setvak
            thank you for the definitions.
            Here in Windy (INFRA+) and for Mid-Latitudes, colored (blue) layer starts at 240K (-33C) ?
            Personally, I preffer to start "colorize" IR images from -20C, which is a typical temp. for TCU starting to become a CB (IMHO)

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            • setvak
              setvak @Gkikas LGPZ last edited by

              @Gkikas-LGPZ

              The reason for selecting 240K is that most storm anvils are at roughly this temperature (their warmest parts). When we were testing this color scheme about 12 years ago, we wanted to have the blue approx. outlining the storm anvils. Warmer temperatures depict also some of the lower, mid-level clouds, which we wanted to avoid.

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              • TZ
                TZ Administrator @Gkikas LGPZ last edited by

                @Gkikas-LGPZ It should be as @setvak wrote, i.e. range 240-200K, because we tried to create same palette like CHMI. Unfortunately it seems that there is still some bug, so the colour values are shifted. We will fix it.
                I agree that it could be useful to shift colours for tropical/polar regions, but it could be misleading to use one colour for different temperatures in one picture. So this will probably remain constant.

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                • setvak
                  setvak @TZ last edited by

                  @TZ
                  You can try using some of the color palettes which are downloadable from the link above, or you can contact me directly by email. I would highly appreciate if the colors and their range can be the same (or very close) as on our website (http://portal.chmi.cz/files/portal/docs/meteo/sat/data_jsmsgview.html >> IR-BT), this way we would not confuse the public. EUMETSAT also uses the same color palette.
                  Re: (not) shifting the color range: this was rather a note that other weather services modify the range depending on their latitude or geographical region; for global images (as those used by you) this is impossible. BTW, the color scale usability also depends at the given location on actual height of the tropopause - with lower tropopause (e.g. polar air intrusions) the storm top temperatures are generally warmer, thus in those cases the storm tops appear in IR-BT images more blueish ...

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                    djare last edited by

                    5 min step, as well as some next 60 min prediction, would be very usefull

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                      Chriscod last edited by Chriscod

                      Hi Windfolk
                      I use my ap for areas over the coast mostly. Great South Bay NY (southern Long Island)
                      the current Sat image is very dark in all the water areas which it is not in most other sat images There is a lot of nuance there that is lost...Good luck and thanks for your work!

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                      • Gkikas LGPZ
                        Gkikas LGPZ Moderator @setvak last edited by Gkikas LGPZ

                        @setvak
                        @TZ
                        I fully understand the reason you use this color palette (240-200K).
                        Is it possible to have the ability to read (using the picker) the cloud top temperature ?
                        It would be very usefull for pilots (and aviation meteorologists) to know the temperature,
                        for computing the cloud top height. So, they will know (during the climb phase) the height they will be "on top".
                        Thank you again and congats for this new big feature.

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                        • Tomber42
                          Tomber42 Moderator @djare last edited by

                          @djare

                          @djare said in Help us to test new Satellite layer:

                          5 min step, as well as some next 60 min prediction, would be very usefull

                          I don't think that prediction is available from EUMETSAT

                          Greetings from Tomber

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                          • Tomber42
                            Tomber42 Moderator @jmh2002 last edited by

                            @jmh2002 said in Help us to test new Satellite layer:

                            WOW that's awesome!!!

                            THANKS to Ivo, Milan, Tomas, Martin, Jakub, Jindra, and all of the Windy Team!

                            Yeah, this layer is absolutely amazing. :) THX to WINDY Team

                            Greetings from Tomber

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                            • mhaberler
                              mhaberler | Premium last edited by

                              this came out phenomenal - really useful!

                              Michael

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                              • Vladimir Zov
                                Vladimir Zov last edited by

                                Damn this is so coool. Can't stop watching the animation of clouds, too hypnotizing _ And quality is awesome!

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                                • jamil
                                  jamil | Premium last edited by

                                  Hi
                                  I have a suggestion
                                  Merge the rain radar image with the satellite of clouds in one map

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                                    TalkeetnaAirTaxi last edited by

                                    Aw! Those of us in Talkeetna, AK, are in the "V" of no coverage :(

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                                      bearfoot last edited by

                                      This is great

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                                        Leslie_Slone last edited by

                                        I Like the new edition to the site. Keep up the good work. I use this site more than any other to keep an eye on the weather and I used it to track Hurricane Michael. I live in FL thanks for the site. The Weather Chanel has removed their Hurricane Center from the web site.

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                                          tereplane last edited by

                                          I love it .... True Forecasting, Real Weather. That's Windy

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                                          • mhaberler
                                            mhaberler @TalkeetnaAirTaxi | Premium last edited by

                                            @TalkeetnaAirTaxi That's what you get when you elect a cat as mayor ;-)

                                            Michael

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