It boggles my mind how Windy has chosen to display the radar. Other websites are faithfully showing the snow over my area. I NEED to see this snow to make some important plans. I pay Windy MONEY so I can use weather data to make my plans. I have been watching significant snow fall over my area for hours. It is measurably accumulating on the ground and it affects transportation. I want to estimate when it ends. According to Windy radar, there has never BEEN any snow! This is really getting to me. Not only has Windy known about this problem but they have communicated NO reason for deciding to display different radar signatures than other common websites. Would you please either (1) put forward a reason your affected readers should be paying you to make the decisions you've made about displaying radar, or (2) display the radar signatures that most people consider worth displaying. I don't know if you apply filters to remove weak signals you don't consider interesting, but CLEARLY the radar sites are providing radar data and you are literally NOT showing that data to paying customers. And you do this in silent fiat, not even showing concern about the issue. Please fix this issue. Most people use weather sites with the hope of seeing radar and satellite data llayered on top of each other. Windy does not offer that. However, you don't even provide a single layer of radar data that shows measurable, accumulating precipitation. Do something. I see no need to pay for essentially incorrect data I can get elsewhere for free. >:-[

@korina - You are passing the buck. If huge swaths of significant precipitation are missed by your radar provider, then YOUR website is still failing to show useful radar data. Get a new radar feed! I would rather have a complete feed from an old WSR-57 than the highly limited data you are passing on. Get a new radar feed, regardless of the provider.

@idefix37 - (For those reading this old topic. :) Fronts on regular NWS surface analysis maps are MOST CERTAINLY done by computers, not meteorologists. Likewise, Accuweather stopped using manual analyses. The change in the NWS policy was done many years ago. I remember, as I was an active forecaster at the time. The quality of the surface analysis maps plummeted. Symbols for High and Low were computer-generated as well. The symbols were put all over the map and sometimes right on top of each other - really useless. The fronts were at times helpful, but sometimes poorly placed (I think nonsensical errors are quite rare now). The automated maps are not as helpful as hand-drawn fronts, especially when fronts had kinks or discontinuities. If you look at the NWS maps coming out of the WPC, it is apparent that someone at the WPC has an approval responsibility and their name goes in the legend. However, if you look at the product, it is CLEARLY automated. Perhaps the NWS allows for map tweaking, but certainly the primary products are automated. Eventually, AI will do this better than humans, but for now I don't know if that has been achieved yet. Work on this requires money and fronts are more for layman consumption or forecast conceptualization rather than forecast accuracy.

@cswarm34 - Thanks for that perspective. However, I don't want BAD data. WIndy's data is not just "smoothed" in a conventional way, it is SUPPRESSED. I have worked with raw radar data. That kind of imagery would be what I expect when ground clutter is removed by only showing higher angle radar returns, then adding smoothing.

Smoothing refers to tamping down gradients, so sudden changes in a signal are reduced. Windy's radar source eliminates whole areas of precip the size of small states! That goes well beyond conventional smoothing. They seem to be using a simple filter whereby some signals are completely ignored, not just smoothed.

Also, despite what you've said about me, I am not looking for JUST radar. However, I certainly do not want seemingly arbitrarily filtered data (with the net effect it is missing). Windy STILL has not given an explanation as to why their radar source sucks eggs. To what purpose is Windy's source opting to filter out actual precipitation? The other day people in Pennsylvania died in a snow squall on the highway. I had snow squalls around me as well. When it comes to shallow convection snow squalls, Windy's radar source often presents the image akin to negligible virga, not something that obstructs visibility and even affects vehicle braking.

Why does Windy find that acceptable? Windy won't even engage in that conversation. THAT is COMPLETELY unacceptable to for me to be coming from a service that presents itself as trying to please its customers. Few things annoy me off in life like a person who refuses to even give a reason for their choices that are negatively affecting people. If they can't give a reason, is there an emotional problem where they can't discuss the issue because of some prior trauma in their lives regarding accurate radar? I doubt it. So why? Seriously, how the heck can Windy's team not discuss WHY their source is filtering out data (not smoothing). Thanks, again, though, for at least engaging honestly. Windy seems quite unwilling to even do that. :-b

The radar time-stamp on these images was only five minutes apart. They should look nearly identical. Windy is missing lots of snow.

@goatsrslow - Since the icons are still being used, perhaps consider the goat to be a gazelle. Maybe that's what it is!

@cswarm34 - I have seen cars sold that have more features than others but they were recalled because they presented a safety risk. I am glad you don't write the government recall rules. You would be standing up for t he those companies who shaft customers with poor performance. As for some any person needing smoothness, usually smoothness is necessary for getting modelling of data to work for prediction or feature highlighting. I doubt many users are putting Windy data through feature analysis or modelling. Most people in the whole world, not just Windy customers, want to know WHERE IS IT PRECIPITATING, HOW MUCH, AND WHAT KIND OF PRECIPITATION. Try polling people and ask if they want to know such things. As a former meteorologist who did both public and military forecasts and was surrounded by others doing the same (including publicly recognizable people), I assure you one of the most frequent concerns of customers surrounded precipitation. Prioritizing some "pretty picture" smoothing over letting customers where the precipitation is located is a terrible prioritization choice.

@korina - Thank you. I know I'm not the first to raise this issue. It is fundamental to the trustworthiness of the usefulness of this site.

Radar and satellite views stopped working on 4/18/2022. I never had a problem with them before. Now Windy pops up a message telling me those features were repeatedly failing. Oh, really? Since when? I have certainly complained - and justifiably so - about Windy's lousy data when it comes to snow or light precip. I've had a driveway covered in snow and Windy says nothing is happening within 30 miles or more! But this is different. The whole map won't work. Now, my browser (FF v99.0.1) certainly didn't update or change from yesterday morning to within the last few hours but Windy functionality did. Can someone please explain if there is any deterministic behavior taking place here, or does Windy just randomly stop working for no apparent reason? Thanks to anyone who genuinely offers useful comment, not those who put this on the browser that has not updated or changed and still works with ALL other websites I visit.

@cswarm34 - Thanks for that perspective. However, I don't want BAD data. WIndy's data is not just "smoothed" in a conventional way, it is SUPPRESSED. I have worked with raw radar data. That kind of imagery would be what I expect when ground clutter is removed by only showing higher angle radar returns, then adding smoothing.

Smoothing refers to tamping down gradients, so sudden changes in a signal are reduced. Windy's radar source eliminates whole areas of precip the size of small states! That goes well beyond conventional smoothing. They seem to be using a simple filter whereby some signals are completely ignored, not just smoothed.

Also, despite what you've said about me, I am not looking for JUST radar. However, I certainly do not want seemingly arbitrarily filtered data (with the net effect it is missing). Windy STILL has not given an explanation as to why their radar source sucks eggs. To what purpose is Windy's source opting to filter out actual precipitation? The other day people in Pennsylvania died in a snow squall on the highway. I had snow squalls around me as well. When it comes to shallow convection snow squalls, Windy's radar source often presents the image akin to negligible virga, not something that obstructs visibility and even affects vehicle braking.

Why does Windy find that acceptable? Windy won't even engage in that conversation. THAT is COMPLETELY unacceptable to for me to be coming from a service that presents itself as trying to please its customers. Few things annoy me off in life like a person who refuses to even give a reason for their choices that are negatively affecting people. If they can't give a reason, is there an emotional problem where they can't discuss the issue because of some prior trauma in their lives regarding accurate radar? I doubt it. So why? Seriously, how the heck can Windy's team not discuss WHY their source is filtering out data (not smoothing). Thanks, again, though, for at least engaging honestly. Windy seems quite unwilling to even do that. :-b

@cswarm34 - I have seen cars sold that have more features than others but they were recalled because they presented a safety risk. I am glad you don't write the government recall rules. You would be standing up for t he those companies who shaft customers with poor performance. As for some any person needing smoothness, usually smoothness is necessary for getting modelling of data to work for prediction or feature highlighting. I doubt many users are putting Windy data through feature analysis or modelling. Most people in the whole world, not just Windy customers, want to know WHERE IS IT PRECIPITATING, HOW MUCH, AND WHAT KIND OF PRECIPITATION. Try polling people and ask if they want to know such things. As a former meteorologist who did both public and military forecasts and was surrounded by others doing the same (including publicly recognizable people), I assure you one of the most frequent concerns of customers surrounded precipitation. Prioritizing some "pretty picture" smoothing over letting customers where the precipitation is located is a terrible prioritization choice.

@korina - I answered your question now. Your old question was basically, "Don't expect us to do our job, keep working for us for free to do Windy QC for us." You can read that reply. It is quite easy to go to other websites and compare data. Find the situations when common radar resources for the public show one general picture and you show another "story". I have cancelled. I am paid through December, so unless you would be decent enough to send me a pro-rated refund, I will be commenting until then.

@gkikas-lgpz - I had missed replying to this, I see today. This radar image you question was observational (not predicted) radar from the Weather Channel, if I recall correctly. I do recall checking other sites just to confirm. And the results made me even more upset, as they matched the Weather Channel map quite well. I had also visited Accuweather and they showed the precipitation in New Jersey as well. I can't guarantee the image is not from there.

It is VERY disappointing to realize you don't do Quality Control on your products, instead you "neg" paying customers who don't comprehensively do your job for you. I had already done a big part of your job. Then you asked me to do more. I am glad I had not seen until now. I would have been quite upset.

I am not the only customer to point out this problem. Perhaps you have learned from Putin or Xi how to lead an organization? Challenge facts you don't like instead of looking into them and fixing the problems? Well, no problem for me. A few days ago, experiencing the problem once again, I accepted that you would never change and CANCELLED MY SUBSCRIPTION. Unfortunately, I had just paid in December. So, unless I am "lucky" and your convoluted paying membership cancellation system manages to offer pro-rated refunds, I will be a paying and commenting customer for a year.

Based on other paying customer comments, I might yet be billed regularly even after my cancellation and then have to fight that. I hope not.

@yoyo-li - Let Hong Kong be FREE! Keep Taiwan FREE!

Cancelling Windy due to ridiculously WRONG radar imagery. You have no excuse.

I wanted weather data services that were not abject lies. Sorry, when snowflakes the size of dimes are falling outside and visibility is far below a mile, yet your radar provider (once again) does not show anything on the image, you have no excuse. You are a lousy meteorology site when it comes to displaying non-heavy precipitation.

Enjoy your windsurfing, since clearly you never cared about actual weather. I am literally cancelling, as I begin looking up the process after posting this. I stopped using Windy for the most part (after commenting on the problem), but I hoped you would fix this. You have not. NO excuse.

It's intolerable for snow to be falling for half an hour across a wide area and you lie to your users by showing nothing. Yes, it's a lie. In order to save money, I suppose, you have continued with the world's worst radar data provider.

Since I am leaving now, good riddance as well to fake satellite images. Your animations create fake data to fill in gaps. I don't want giggly fun satellite images. I don't want the TikTok channel. As a former professional meteorologist, I like REAL data to tell me about the REAL world I live in, not some phony "ooh, pretty pictures" world your business model aims to sell. And don't tell me I can change it in settings. You won't let my settings stay permanent.

When it's snowing enough to cover the ground, that requires REAL data not a pretty picture of nothing that your radar data provider sends you Enjoy the fifty cents you saved with the "advanced" fake data they provide you. CANCELLING.

In one final point of sadness, let me say I was said when the Republican politicians destroyed the great display features available at the NWS. They cut funding and had top leaders also make it hard to create a centralized public-facing mapping and analysis page. They were pushed quite vigorously by the (quite really immoral) Accuweather Myer's family and their political donations to seek control of what should be public data. Joel Myer's is a super-creep and a real d-bag, as those who worked for him in State College found out whenever they tried to go to work for anybody but his company-town Crapuweather.

I was further saddened when Wunderground sold out and was crippled by the Weather Channel's company, and then by IBM. Want to know how moronic they are? Look at the Wunderground map and select the COVID-19 map. Yes, that's the level of usefulness they care about. The same map for two years, basically, nothing useful about it.

Finally, Windy came along. People like me paid in hoping it would improve. Then somebody there decided they might add features, but showing precipitation would just be too negative. #ItNeverRainsOnMyParadeAtWindy!
Windy refuses to get real radar data. This issue is year's old. It breaks my heart to see humanity is simply incapable of having government or private companies provide decent, basic, ACCURATE, TRUTHFUL weather data for the public.

Keep the money, I guess, even for all the months I never used Windy. I waited and waited. You broke me. I give up on finding a competent provider of Wx data. And one final tip. Don't be like Microsoft, even though you're trying. For thirty years now, Microsoft has had the problem of desktop icons getting rearranged, THIRTY FREAKING YEARS AND IT STILL HAPPENS WITH NO RECOVERY FEATURE. You're trying the same thing, sort of. You have "settings" for paying customers, but they get lost each time a person's g cookies get deleted. How many years will this go on? Don't be like Microsoft. You're already providing sh&tty radar data. That's a bad enough job of being lazy, you don't need to not try harder even more.

@idefix37 - (For those reading this old topic. :) Fronts on regular NWS surface analysis maps are MOST CERTAINLY done by computers, not meteorologists. Likewise, Accuweather stopped using manual analyses. The change in the NWS policy was done many years ago. I remember, as I was an active forecaster at the time. The quality of the surface analysis maps plummeted. Symbols for High and Low were computer-generated as well. The symbols were put all over the map and sometimes right on top of each other - really useless. The fronts were at times helpful, but sometimes poorly placed (I think nonsensical errors are quite rare now). The automated maps are not as helpful as hand-drawn fronts, especially when fronts had kinks or discontinuities. If you look at the NWS maps coming out of the WPC, it is apparent that someone at the WPC has an approval responsibility and their name goes in the legend. However, if you look at the product, it is CLEARLY automated. Perhaps the NWS allows for map tweaking, but certainly the primary products are automated. Eventually, AI will do this better than humans, but for now I don't know if that has been achieved yet. Work on this requires money and fronts are more for layman consumption or forecast conceptualization rather than forecast accuracy.

Is there any chance you could provide an (old?) version of the Windy app that supports Android 6? I had such a version installed on my phoe,, but it was not working properly. It was CONSTANTLY prompting me to get a Premium account even though I have one. I figured this couldn't be an intentional feature and that surely my app was corrupted. So, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app. Unfortunately, now I can't reinstall, as the latest version does not support Android 6. Is there some way I can have a copy of the Android 6-compatible version so I can use my Premium account? (It makes no sense for me to pay for an account I can't use.) Also, do all versions of Windy have that awful habit of always suggesting to Premium members that they AGAIN purchase a Premium account? I can't stand that anymore. If I have to put up with that, I will just cancel. It's god-awful disrespectful to users who are paying to ask for MORE money. Thanks!

@korina - Thank you. I know I'm not the first to raise this issue. It is fundamental to the trustworthiness of the usefulness of this site.