I'm not the first to ask for HRRR, and won't be the last, but seeing as there's no very recent thread I thought I'd start another. More frequent, higher resolution, useful for places with steep weather gradients like the American West Coast where driving fifteen minutes is consequential.
Thanks for Windy, it's good.
@korina I just saw HRRR show up the page. This is wonderful!
@korina Alright, well, I guess that's all the encouragement I needed, I'll post another one if I see it. Let me know if it's just noise and you have monitoring on data delay and just need time to fix it.
@filip_k Picked up another one just now:
Not sure about that one, but here's a live one active right now: (4:45 PM in America/Los_Angeles)
Huh here's another one, also active right now. I'll stop reporting these unless you ask, seems like they might trip an automated system at 4h or 9h of delay.
@filip_k Picked up another one just now:
@korina I suppose I simply disagree: it's disruptive to be aware to not zoom the map to look at San Francisco or even the Bay Area (of which Brentwood probably not a part) without losing track of what the contours of the weather forecasting model looks like and squeeze me into 8cm * 8cm of the screen.
@korina The problem is the user interface: I'm stuck dragging the weather picker around a couple of inches on my screen, being very conscious at all times to not look at San Francisco the normal way. Weather resolution does still matter: this is less important for 13KM models where there's not much point looking at the north-east city or the south-west city beyond generalities.
Besides that, of what utility is the street map at that resolution? Doesn't seem to have much comparative advantage.
And finally: mobile gets it right, in terms of not squeezing my use into a tiny sliver of the screen. Are you saying you should make it a street map at this zoom level?
@idefix37 It's easier to orient on and move the weather picker around the map. It's disruptive to lose the gradient when looking at the most common view of the city of San Francisco, I have to focus a great deal on looking at the Bay Area a certain way. The reasoning you give cuts both ways, since there's little point in having street-by-street information about the weather and dragging the picker around.
Like, for what is a weather mapping application, what's the point of showing a street map without weather gradient here, so you can maintain your orientation about where the interfaces (e.g. in cloudcover) are in the model?
To show how this feels in the browser viewport, I have scaled these images so they can fit the forums.
Natural view where it's reasonable to want gradients maintained:
The highest zoom level I can use with gradients, and I must be very conscious at all times to never zoom:
@korina Alright, well, I guess that's all the encouragement I needed, I'll post another one if I see it. Let me know if it's just noise and you have monitoring on data delay and just need time to fix it.
This is the maximum zoom level before the Windy web application switches to street maps. I find myself often squinting at this to figure out how my activities relate to predicted cloudcover and temperature gradients. The cropped image probably does not reproduce my subjective experience, because my screen is a high-DPI one. It's even more pronounced when applied against the (wonderful!) HRRR forecast availability, as it has such high resolution.
I have been working around this since, well, forever, by either moving the weather picker around when using the street map (for simple checks) or using the browser font-increase function (when I'm checking forecasts over time or evaluating a more complex interface), at a lower zoom level, but it's been annoying me and I'm not sure of what use street maps are at such a low zoom level.
Blessedly, this frustration is not replicated on mobile, where gradients stay active at much higher zooms.
In a related consideration regarding zoom levels, I do find when I type in the name of a favorite or feature in the Windy search that it loses my zoom level and zooms out way, way too far. Both issues seem to relate to a design with much lower zoom levels in mind.
Huh here's another one, also active right now. I'll stop reporting these unless you ask, seems like they might trip an automated system at 4h or 9h of delay.
Not sure about that one, but here's a live one active right now: (4:45 PM in America/Los_Angeles)
@tz I've been using it extensively for my daily planning, I've more or less switched to Windy in Safari to be able to use it. One thing I think seems a little odd is I think I saw an update (the only time I took a look) two hours apart? I was under the impression that HRRR is 24 updates a day.
@korina I just saw HRRR show up the page. This is wonderful!