@idefix37

That's a good point. So, I decided to look up the stations and I found this with Chat GPT.

https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/MadisSurface/

I was able to go to the stations we were discussing. (Not Canada).

First the CL station here.

Chat GPT reports here interesting FF by wind speed:

"In meteorological reports, "FF" typically stands for "Fahrtwind" (German for "apparent wind" or "travel wind"). In this context, "FF-Wind Speed" likely refers to the measured wind speed at the location.

So, "FF-Wind Speed" indicates the wind speed measurement, which in this case is 9.01 mph."

There are two measurements here. I believe that those are the measurements for wind on this station. So the Dashed line is the wind speed observed. Now for more interesting information from Chat GPT. I asked what QC and the "S" and "C" is.

"ChatGPT

The last column labeled "QC" stands for "Quality Control." This column indicates the quality control status of the data, ensuring that the measurements meet certain standards or criteria.

In the provided data:

"S" likely stands for "Suspect" or "Suspect Quality," meaning that the data has passed initial quality checks but may still require further verification.
"C" likely stands for "Checked" or "Correct," meaning that the data has been thoroughly reviewed and is confirmed to be accurate.

For example:

Wind Speed (FF-Wind Speed) has a "QC" value of "S," indicating the data is suspect and may need further verification.
Wind Gust Speed (FFGUST-Wind Gust Speed) has a "QC" value of "C," indicating the data has been checked and confirmed to be accurate."

Compare this to the Airport location which is Dry Creek near Corvallis.

Chat Gpt says that "V" is valid or verified. and the "Z" is for erroneous or invalid and cold be flagged.

So, checking the time is shortly after as well not exact the same. measurements are approximate close.

Now for the Airport Dry Creek, Time is Close but not exact it's reported a little bit after.

So the times are not the same exactly and the measurements are not exactly the same but very close. For the airport there is no gust measurement. Wait-- there is some.. SO umm. Maybe windy has other sources combined? or uses another source. Now I don't know why there are gusts reported on windy. It seems that windy has combined sources together.

Well I've spent enough time editing and looking at this. Well over a hour. So, I conclude that the dashed lines is probably the wind speed that is reported. Kind of a average wind speed or could be a low wind speed. Depending on the area because it seems the wind moves up and down and isn't constant. It also can vary with elevation.

Cheers if you enjoyed reading!

@idefix37

That's a good point. So, I decided to look up the stations and I found this with Chat GPT.

https://madis-data.ncep.noaa.gov/MadisSurface/

I was able to go to the stations we were discussing. (Not Canada).

First the CL station here.

Chat GPT reports here interesting FF by wind speed:

"In meteorological reports, "FF" typically stands for "Fahrtwind" (German for "apparent wind" or "travel wind"). In this context, "FF-Wind Speed" likely refers to the measured wind speed at the location.

So, "FF-Wind Speed" indicates the wind speed measurement, which in this case is 9.01 mph."

There are two measurements here. I believe that those are the measurements for wind on this station. So the Dashed line is the wind speed observed. Now for more interesting information from Chat GPT. I asked what QC and the "S" and "C" is.

"ChatGPT

The last column labeled "QC" stands for "Quality Control." This column indicates the quality control status of the data, ensuring that the measurements meet certain standards or criteria.

In the provided data:

"S" likely stands for "Suspect" or "Suspect Quality," meaning that the data has passed initial quality checks but may still require further verification.
"C" likely stands for "Checked" or "Correct," meaning that the data has been thoroughly reviewed and is confirmed to be accurate.

For example:

Wind Speed (FF-Wind Speed) has a "QC" value of "S," indicating the data is suspect and may need further verification.
Wind Gust Speed (FFGUST-Wind Gust Speed) has a "QC" value of "C," indicating the data has been checked and confirmed to be accurate."

Compare this to the Airport location which is Dry Creek near Corvallis.

Chat Gpt says that "V" is valid or verified. and the "Z" is for erroneous or invalid and cold be flagged.

So, checking the time is shortly after as well not exact the same. measurements are approximate close.

Now for the Airport Dry Creek, Time is Close but not exact it's reported a little bit after.

So the times are not the same exactly and the measurements are not exactly the same but very close. For the airport there is no gust measurement. Wait-- there is some.. SO umm. Maybe windy has other sources combined? or uses another source. Now I don't know why there are gusts reported on windy. It seems that windy has combined sources together.

Well I've spent enough time editing and looking at this. Well over a hour. So, I conclude that the dashed lines is probably the wind speed that is reported. Kind of a average wind speed or could be a low wind speed. Depending on the area because it seems the wind moves up and down and isn't constant. It also can vary with elevation.

Cheers if you enjoyed reading!

@Guzrro

So this is the dashed line I am talking about and the MAIN topic of this discussion. Let's focus and figure out what it is.

I believe it is the LOW winds speed. It seems that it is not close to the peak and some locations it is close to the peak wind speed. So can it be a average wind speed? It could be something like trending wind. That seems like follows the gusts.

If there was zero wind the line would be flat at the bottom. But usually there is some wind. And I know that they record a low and a high. IT does not seems to be in the middle of a low and high.

?

I did a search "dashed line" but no results therefore; a new topic unless there is another term used for that line. Any search keyword Ideas?

weather stations info graphic, PWS key, madis, what does windy used to describe their visuals as? Is there a vocabulary list somewhere?

@idefix37 Thank you for your input.

That is something I did not know was available within windy.

Also one other question about the location of this weather station. Is that the exact location or the approximate location. It is right on the freeway so it seems not exact to me. I have a bunch of other things to discuss about this report. I wonder if I can go off a bit on this post?

OK Sorry for not posting complete information as the weather station location is relevant. There is some information there.

So the station is not an airport. It is a Madis station so I think it follows the standards of those stations. I will research that later. maybe that will answer your question and we can reference the data to this station somewhere and confirm that it is the average wind speed.

I got to go now wind is blowing.

Sorry I could not find this answer with a search It might be somewhere but I could not find. So sorry if this is a repeat.

What is the dashed lines? average wind speed? or direction? I would appreciate the help! Is there a tutorial on this section. This is from a weather station's report. Under "Wind detail" tab on the bottom. I would like as much detail on understating this graphic. Low wind speed? is there something like that? I see seems to be only high wind speed here. Or just actual reported wind?

Many Thanks!

Searching the blog it says not possible.
But dated 2016 and also 2024 same said that certain stations can. But how do I do that? And why did you advertise up to one year for premium?

Thanks! It’s useful to kiters and pilots because we can compare and learn what the forecast was and the outcome and see how the forecast works. I disagree that there is no use for it.

And some users do not use it with data plans but use it with wifi so they do use historical data. For instance I would like to compare the forecast from yesterday to today and see how the models have differed and such.

Is there a way to show the precise location of the wind sensors? The weather stations?

Cheers!

I searched for this before posting. Nothing on this.

I am a Premium member, I have favorites. However it's a bit harder to get to my favorite location. I thought it would be easier. I still have to do multiple clicks or scrolls to get to my favorite location.

One on the web. I can't click on the favorite location because the town is small and every time the favorite location is faded. and I have to zoom in and out until I get the correct zoom to click on the favorite this seems more work than just typing in the location and pressing enter.

Second on the app not so bad but still I have to click on an icon then I have to click again on favorites to get my locations then I have to scroll down to the bottom, heh yeah the town starts with a "S" so I want a one click option to get there when I open the app or web app.

Cheers.